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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:24am on 2019-06-19

From History Is Gay, ep. 5, "Stars from a Bi-Gone Era", 2018-03-05 approx. 0:34:25 to 0:36:55:

[any typos, spelling errors, and other transcription errors are mine ... really hoping I didn't accidentally switch the names...]

Leigh ([profile] aparadoxinflux):   Part of the reason why we started this podcast is ... there's a lot of media out there that is doing really great work to highlight the work and the foundations that have been laid by queer pioneers fighting for our civil rights. And a lot of the discusion about queer history -- if we get it at all anywhere in school -- focuses on a very specific time period, and it's a very recent time period. And it's upsetting and unfortunate that we have been erased from history, and not at all by being forgotten accidentally, but often very deliberately and systemically. In that our records have been physically been destroyed.
 
Gretchen ([profile] gnelliswriter):   Or even, as you were just saying, the telling of stories in a way that totally erases the queer context from them. So that was part of what we wanted to do -- and especially in the podcast we did on the male homosexual tradition in China, when we realized they have three thousand years of history. And how amazing would it be if we as a queer community could situate ourselves in history and say, "Yeah, we've got like ten thousand years of history, 'cause we've literally always been around." We're not new, we're not some invention of induatrialization, or whatever bullshit people say -- "It's cool to be gay now, that's why all the people are gay" -- no! We've always been here, it's just now we have more space to actually talk about our experience!
 
Leigh ([profile] aparadoxinflux):   Or even talking about what our language that we use. There's so much discourse right now around what language and what words we use, and I think that a lot of problems that come from that, and why people get so heated, is that we don't know our own history. There are so many people talking about how 'queer' is a slur, but also there are a lot of people who don't necessarily know the history of that word, and that yes it was a slur and we fought tooth and nail to reclaim it. Same with any other word that has ever been used to describe our community. And that can be solved by having comprehensice access to our own history. And not just from folks in our community -- it needs to be on a systemic curriculum level.

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