"There's always a false dichotomy that's made between peace and justice that one must preceed the other, whereas theye both must work in tandem. In parallel. If you're going to rebuild a society, you need to account for crimes, especially the worst of crimes, especially crimes that have torn apart a nation." -- Robert Petit, interviewed by Matt Galloway on the CBC program The Current, 2022-09-27 ( transcript), ( listen (whole episode)), segment titled "Tribunal into Khmer Rouge's brutal rule closes after 16 years, upholding 3 convictions" ( Apple podcasts), ( Podchaser).