"Like anal sex and BDSM, fisting is often mistakenly associated with the gay community or is considered a sex act too extreme to be appropriate for Christian couples. Not only are these views incorrect, but fisting actually has a scriptural precedent, as we will show. [...] Given the powerful symbolism of the fist, it is no surprise that couples who have partaken in the practice of fisting have described it as being a profoundly spiritual experience. On a symbolic and sexual level, a wife who is fisted by her husband has the experience of surrendering completely to the divine love and power of the Lord, as embodied by her partner's hand. The husband in turn has the experience of touching and caressing her inwardly, in such a deep and intimate manner as God touches our own souls with His grace." -- from Fisting and God's Will, on the Sex In Christ web site.
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to the fact that this guy (& you know darned well it's a guy who wrote
this) only meantions BEING fisted with a strong caveat. Please note that
I am not condemning the act, just the self-serving pretense that it's
G-d's Will (tm), rather than just his own desires. In fact, the very
idea that he has to cloak it as such proves that he thinks there's
something wrong with it.
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But the gender asymmetry and (even more) the reasoning behind it bugged me too.
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explanation - thanks for the lesson in being a human being!
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I mean fisting's fine if that's what you're into. But this divinity layer? Dude.
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lucky she is to have him fist her, but that dhe'd better be darned
sure she knows who's in charge if she wants to fist him.
THAT kind of fun.
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Nitpick
Note that this does not mean that you can use any religion to justify anything -- one should be able to construct a religion for which that is not the case. ("∃ religion R | (∀ p | R ⇒ p)" is true, as is the very different "∀ p | (∃ R | R ⇒ p)", but "∀ R | (∀ p | R ⇒ p)" is (I think) false. That is, ∃ R | (∃ p | R does not imply p).) But, of course, that would then spark heated argument over whether said religion were technically a religion.
I shall refrain from making any claims or guesses as to whether there is any known, existing religion about which one can say that it is not possible to justify anything/everything using it. I'll merely note that the religions that come quickly to mind can be shown to be useable to justify anything. Fortunately the path required to get from the
axiomsarticles of faith to some conclusions is convoluted enough to raise red flags even for believers. Unfortunately smooth-talkers can sometimes obscure that feature, and some rather unfortunate conclusions can be reached via less tortured reasoning than that. I mean, there's a "common sense" test that applies where formal logic doesn't, but the "common sense" test ain't as reliable as one would hope. But if you want to try to use logic instead, well as soon as you hit the first instance of "p ∧ !p", it's game over.Huh. Why isn't there a slashed double-right-arrow HTML entity for "does not imply"?
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That's not spiritual, that's painful! lol... the only thing spiritual about it was the halo the last guy that tried to do it to me was seeing after I clocked him (one more reason to always ask first)