So, I've got this scavenged rack that cost me a week's worth of spoons to wrestle into the house in December, which has been taking up space since then but is supposed to save space once I get the screws to mount computer equipment in it that's currently spread out over desks and an improvised workbench.
But I couldn't find screws that fit it. One day when I remembered
to mention that I was looking for affordable shelves and found out that
syntonic_comma had a few extras he could part with, he also
handed me a screw from his rack to match at a hardware store on my way
home and buy more of, which turned out to be a 10-24 when I
took it to Home Depot, so I bought a bunch of 10-24
screws and, on a hunch, a bunch of 10-32 screws just in case. Neither
size fit my rack (though a 10-32 nut did fit onto one a screw I had
that was already in the rack). I asked my favourite mailing list for
clues, and got pointed to a web page that said the most common sizes
of mounting screws for computer racks were -- ta da! -- 10-24 and 10-32,
with a small minority being M6. So, back to Home Depot -- the one I
usually go to instead of the one on the way home from Virginia -- where
I found that my sample screw would go into the M5
hole in the screw-guage in the store. So home again with a few M5
screws ... which did not fit into the rack (though they went in
about half a turn farther than the 10-32 screws).
That was a couple weeks ago. I've been annoyed by the sight of the rack all that time. Over the weekend I finally got one side of the rack off (nearly wrecking my 10mm socket in the in the process), amd this morning I tossed it in the car (had to fold down the back seat and put it in through the trunk) to go to hardware stores, expecting to have to visit specialty fastener companies afterwards (and not being sure which of those were wholesale-only). But first, since I was out at regular-person hours instead of night-owl-time, and also because the Catonsville Home Depot is a little farther than I want to drive my car while it's steering funny (by the way: today I noticed that the cruise control no longer works, which I hadn't thought to check during my test drive after the hit-and-run) I stopped at a tiny corner corner hardware store (in a converted rowhouse) a few blocks from my house first.
They tried various screws.
Their 10-32 screws fit. They fit about as well as the one that came from the rack in the first place, in two holes, and more stiffly than that but not "oh no it's the wrong thread"-stuck in the other holes we tried.
The 10-32 screws from Home Depot do not fit. Though, as I mentioned before, 10-32 nuts from Home Depot fit my sample screw.
I forgot to ask which manufacturer Zeskind Hardware buys screws from. But in addition to fitting -- the primary criterion -- these are also not countersunk, so I don't need to fiddle with extra washers to get a snug fit against the things I'm mounting. (All the screws I saw in the between-1/8"-and-1/4" size range at two Home Depot stores were countersunk.)
I've been cursing the manufacturer of the rack for using some obscure, bizarre screw thread, when the problem turned out to be the screws themselves, from a particular manufacturer. (Or maybe both the rack and the Home Depot screws are ever so slightly out of spec in opposite directions and these screws are out of spec in a compatible direction, I dunno, but it looks like the rack is supposed to be bog standard 10-32 after all.)
Must remember: try the tiny little corner hardware store first instead of going to a Great Big Chain Store straightaway.
I am annoyed. I am annoyed in roughly equal parts, at the incompatibility of the ostensibly standard components, and at myself for having missed the easy solution close to my house until after banging my head against the problem for so long.
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Also, the screws should have a oval head and use a thick or formed washer for them to "recess" into... Why? I haven't a clue, but all my sound, video, etc. gear is that way, all my racked computer gear is that way, and my old ISP/telecommunication gear is that way...
Janice (Who has lots of old & possibly useless stuff...)
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This is why I am invariably irritated when small local stores with people who actually Know what they have and can find the weird stuff when I ask are overtaken and plowed under by megastores that rarely know Anything and carry mostly (if not Entirely!) crap. Please send me an address for the Real hardware store so I can go spend my few pitiful pennies on some place that will earn them and hopefully stick around longer for it. I wasn't sure there Were any good ones left in the whole Baltimore area ...
PS: The rationale for the raised-edged washers is two-fold. One is that they protect you and the equipment finnish from any dings and scratches by the bolts. The other is that, when made out of ~softer materials (anything from rubber and polypropylene to very mild steel can qualify, depending on too many variables to go into), they provide a bit of (mis-)alignment and vibration tolerance/protection.
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222 S. Payson St.
Baltimore, MD, 21223
410-233-1919
It really is tiny it doesn't look even as wide as my house -- so there'll be a lot of big-box-store stuff they just don't have (as I'm sure you already guessed), but they're the ones who took a valve stem I handed them from the cut-off valve for my tub, said, "Yeah, there's supposed to be a washer right here. You're not supposed to be able to repair these -- they're supposed to be replaced when the washer dies. But I can fix that anyhow," and proceeded to do exactly that.
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I got my first batch of rackmount screws from Guitar Center.
Payed too much, but the joy is there when they fit.
Subsequent batches will be ordered online either from Musician's Friend or from someone who carries the real deal.
I learned a LONG time ago that hardware stores don't carry this stuff.