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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:26am on 2007-06-25 under

"[...] What the Romans were persecuting [early Christians] for was not their religion per se; it was sedition - see, these new cultists wouldn't sacrifice to the gods for the Emperor, an act which had a similar sort of standing to saying the Pledge of Allegiance or saluting the flag during the National Anthem in the US now. I mention this because it makes the flag-idolatry of a number of Religious Right groups deliciously ironic." -- [livejournal.com profile] omorka, 2007-06-06

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posted by [identity profile] kolraashgadol.livejournal.com at 02:37am on 2007-06-26
UNfortunately, this is probably not quite accurate. See the very interesting passage in the talmud that explains the destruction of Jerusalem below:

Gittin 55b-56a
R. Johanan said: What is illustrative of the verse, Happy is the man that feareth always, but he that hardeneth his heart shall fall into mischief? The destruction of Jerusalem came through a Kamza and a Bar Kamza; the destruction of Tur Malka came through a cock and a hen; the destruction of Beitar came through the shaft of a leather. The destruction of Jerusalem came through a Kamza and a Bar Kamza in this way. A certain man had a friend Kamza and an enemy Bar Kamza. He once made a party and said to his servant, Go and bring Kamza. The man went and brought Bar Kamza. When the man [who gave the party] found him there he said, See, you tell tales about me; what are you doing here? Get out. Said the other: Since I am here, let me stay, and I will pay you for whatever I eat and drink.

He said, I won't. Then let me give you half the cost of the party. No, said the other. Then let me pay for the whole party. He still said, No, and he took him by the hand and put him out. Said the other, Since the Rabbis were sitting there and did not stop him, this shows that they agreed with him. I will go and inform against then, to the Government. He went and said to the Emperor, The Jews are rebelling against you. He said, How can I tell? He said to him: Send them an offering and see whether they will offer it [on the altar]. So he sent with him a fine calf. While on the way he made a blemish on its upper lip, or as some say on the white of its eye, in a place where we [Jews] count it a blemish but they do not. The Rabbis were inclined to offer it in order not to offend the Government. Said Rav Zechariah bar Abkulas to them: People will say that blemished animals are offered on the altar. They then proposed to kill Bar Kamza so that he should not go and inform against them, but Rav Zechariah bar Abkulas said to them, Is one who makes a blemish on consecrated animals to be put to death? Rabbi Johanan thereupon remarked: Through the scrupulousness of Rav Zechariah bar Abkulas our House has been destroyed, our Temple burnt and we ourselves exiled from our land.

 
posted by [identity profile] stevemb.livejournal.com at 03:13pm on 2007-06-26
I wish you'd mentioned to somebody on the concom that you'd gotten a lift home; there was a bit of running around to see if you still needed one until I thought of checking this LJ.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 04:44am on 2007-06-27
Whoops. Sorry; I was under the (apparently mistaken) impression that my ride had been recruited by the concom. Load-out finished up while folks were singing the Birthday Dirge to [livejournal.com profile] starmalachite. I didn't realize I'd left a mystery behind me until I saw this comment.
 
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