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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 01:40pm on 2007-07-07 under ,

Dear Lazyweb,

What's the proper lubrication for this type of AC motor (from a box fan)? I'm guessing that neither WD-40 nor olive oil, the two oils I have on hand, are correct.

[Electric motor, disassembled; coilsaround the outside, rotor doesn't appear to be a magnet]

Graphite powder seems iffy to me in an electric motor too, but if'n I knew fer sure, I wouldn't need to ask. Oh, I might have some 10W30 around here someplace, if that would work as a substitute for the correct stuff. Or is this one of those "once it starts squeaking and rattling and stalling it's time to throw it away" situations? It would run normally for a few seconds, squeak really loudly for a few minutes, then slow and stop. I cleaned a decade or two worth of accumulated dust and hair out of it but it's still not happy.

Also, when I switch it on and it locks itself up -- an electromagnetic situation, not friction -- does that mean it's not worth trying to lubricate it to eke a little more life out of it? It doesn't lock up every time, just once in a while.

It's pretty cool how neatly it comes apart and goes back together anyhow. I hadn't taken apart this type of motor before. Getting the fan blades off the shaft was the hardest part.

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posted by [identity profile] bkleber.livejournal.com at 06:06pm on 2007-07-07
the locked-up situation usually means that one or more sets of poles has a crud or connection issue - that is, when you switch on the motor and that particular set of poles is supposed to be in contact to set up the "go!" field, a connection somewhere isn't being made, and so no field is erected. I see that your rotor's pole contacts look all shiny, but I can't tell whether you cleaned off the stator's pole contacts - if those have crud on them, you may still stall on startup due to a lack of field.

Oil: axle grease, or any of that nature of lubes. Basically, a petroleum oil product that is more solid than liquid. the 10W30 should be fine for seeing whether the motor will work long-term, but if you're going to use it long-term you'll want to pack both axle bearings with the real deal.

As for the squeaking, and whether this fan has bit the dust: If after all the electrical connections are lovely and clean, the thing still won't consistently run smoothly or for more than a few minutes then the years of work and the cleaning may have taken off enough of the electrical contact area between the stator and the rotor that the motor just isn't going to do much any more. Can't say for sure but that's what it sounds like to me.
 
posted by [identity profile] writerjanice.livejournal.com at 09:38am on 2007-07-08
A lock up situation will also occur in an AC motor if the bearings are bad enough that they present to high a friction load for the collapsing field to "kick-start" the rotor.

Those look like the standard oil-less sleeve bearing found in many motors. There really isn't any good way to oil them. It might be possible to replace them, but I suspect that you will find the cost to be more than buying a replacement at Wally-world...

Janice
 
posted by [identity profile] madbodger.livejournal.com at 06:17am on 2007-07-08
Light machine oil, sewing machine oil will do. 3-in-one oil is fine. But you don't
want a water displacer like WD (guess what WD stands for) or food grade oil (although
my chainsaw uses vegetable oil for bar lube).
 
posted by [identity profile] maugorn.livejournal.com at 02:53pm on 2007-07-09
What about lithium grease?

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