Bruce Cohen: "Humans evolved, and are so constituted at a very basic level, that religion is inevitable for us. We're pattern-recognizers and pattern-creators way back up the evolutionary tree, and religion is just an attempt to look for larger and more all-encompassing patterns."
abi: "I'd say that religion and science are born of the same impulse. To posit a path of human evolution that includes science but not religion is like positing a world where cheese is possible, but not butter."
Comments to Making Light, 2007-09-19
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Well, animism is certainly alive and well. ;)
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I don't _think_ that bit contributes to science (note that I'm talking about science as a belief system, *not* how science-the-activity is done; that's as intertwined with socialization as any other human activity).
Actually, I should be a bit stronger there: I think perhaps a definitively non-social explanation system is the distinguishing factor between science and other attempts to understand the world.
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Hrm. May have to expand elsewhere.
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Religion (some, anyway) asks the question "why" - as a teleological question, generally, but not exclusively (that is, "Why should I behave in a certain way?" rather than "Why is the sky blue," which is just a poorly stated empirical question)
Where it gets confusing is in the territory of the mind. Science may ask a question such as "what purpose does an ethical code serve," and the answer will be very different from that answer when asked as a religious question.
Thisis the very struggle of theological positivists of the 20s and after, who simply ruled that religious questions were unanswerable by scientific means as an attempt to try to get science and religion from arguing over which territory belonged to whom. Their point was not that science was true and religion wasn't but simply that science can't answer religious questions well. They wanted to take certain questions out of the realm of science.
And well they should, as well as the reverse. Religion shouldn't be trying to answer scientific question either. In science there should be no point at which someone says, "well, that's it then, we can't ask about what happens before that." The truth is though, that's true in religion as well.
SImply positing God isn't ever the final question (at least it's not in my religion, which, I grant, is behavior focused, not belief focused). It's when you try to mush the two together that you get a holy mess with people trying to get other people to stop asking questions.
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It's funny how being pretty much an absolute materialist makes a lot of the big philosophical questions either moot or essentially meaningless. That works fine for me, maybe not so much for other people, and I think that in itself is a huge sticking point.
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Of course, the same could be said for religion, if you're a materialist.
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