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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 03:55pm on 2008-03-19

Other than me, is anyone still using Clive to post journal entries? The stats page for Blurty only shows one Clive user (must be me), the stats pages for LiveJournal, Scribbld, and GreatestJournal don't report client info at all, and the stats pages for JournalFen, CrazyLife, CommieJournal, DeadJournal, and InsaneJournal report client-usage statistics but don't show any Clive users (not even me). There appear to be some reporting issues.

I'm in the process of hacking some useful modifications into the Clive 0.4.5 source (including one I'd meant to do a couple of years ago but kept putting off), and I'm trying to sort out whether I should try to make my additions as general as possible in case somebody else wants to use them, or I should just consider this a personal-use tool. I'm not even sure whether the author is still using it. I don't think there's been any activity on the project for several years.

(I'm using Clive both for automated posts -- my QotD script uses it, and my SMS entries are piped through it by Procmail -- and for all the posts I make by hand. Editing in my favourite editor and then posting the composed entry from the command line when I'm finished tweaking it, is the most comfortable way to work for me. Though I do have it configured to use the right editor if I invoke Clive in interactive mode as well, even though I never wound up using it that way.)

Hmm. That reminds me. I need plug-ins for Opera and Firefox that make them use vi commands in text-entry boxes on web forms. Switching back and forth between vi and the mimimalist built-ins has begun to really annoy me.

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posted by [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com at 08:10pm on 2008-03-19
I'm a DeepestSender kinda guy. sorry...

However, as for using vi to edit? The extension is "It's All Text" and it allows you to specify an external editor to run.

If you want to use VI and you're running an X environment (I assume), then the command is something like "xterm -e vi" (look up xterm in man and experiment on the command line - i'm on windows now so i can't confirm anything) - when the vi editing is finished and the file is saved, the xterm will terminate and firefox (extension) will load the contents into the text field. you'll see the "edit" button in the lower left corner.

(many, like 17) years ago I did that with "joe" for my default X editing because I hated emacs (then) and hated vi (more, and still), and the default motif editors sucked for code.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:11am on 2008-03-20
I'm switching back and forth between several computers (though I sometimes use the Linux machines remotely via X as well as directly at the console of one of them (still using X)). So I'm moving back and forth between Linux, WinME, WinXP, and occasionally Win2K.

And on each computer, I'm switching back and forth between different browsers: Opera (my main browser / first choice), Firefox, Konqueror, and Lynx being the ones I use regularly (I go through spells of using Lynx a lot and spells of using Lynx only occasionally -- at the moment it's getting a fair bit of use), with Links and Navigator once in a while and Explorer when it launches by accident as a result of invoking something I didn't realize would launch a browser and ignores my favourite-browser setting. In the past I've also used iCab under MacOS, and will eventually start doing so again.

I think I've got vim on all but one or two machines (I think I had a problem getting Cygwin set up on the Win2K box, and I don't remember whether I have vi/vim on the MacOS 8.x and 9.x machines). But when it comes to browser plug-ins / add-ons, you can see I've got a bit of a configuration-management "situation". (You wanna see this list of all the different ways I have to remember for doing copy and paste, between different apps and different environments?)

It sounds like I get to have a solution for one browser, anyhow. I use Firefox under Windows more often than under Linux (in Linux I use Opera and Konqueror more often, but I do use Firefox often enough there to still be worth installing the add-on) -- will the add-on play nice in Windows-native Firefox with vim.exe under Cygwin?

Now if I can find something like that for Opera ...



That xterm syntax looks right. (I thought there was also an X-ified version of vim that didn't need an xterm, but I'm not seeing it on my Debian box ... ah, here it is on a SuSe box: gvim. I should try that and see whether it adds anything I like or drives me crazy.)

I thought joe stood for "Joe's Own Emacs" --? (Emacs and I don't like each other. It's mean to me, so I'm rude to it. It's rude too, ignoring my stty settings. Vi knows how to treat me right.)
 
posted by [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com at 01:48pm on 2008-03-20
Joe's Own Editor (which like GNU, was a self-referential acronym). He based the original key mapping on WordStar (^K is your friend) and I memorized that so much I reconfigured any emacs I use to use it instead.

but yeah, VIM as supported variants of VI probably would work. Now I haven't tried the cygwin solution; in fact I've not done any attempt to use cygwin without being in the cygwin shell first. I simply don't need to.

Me, I've always hated vi and always will. To each their own...

On windows, I use the (not updated since 2004, but it works so I don't argue) Crimson editor for most of my text needs. I also use firefox exclusively unless i'm testing my code.
 
posted by [identity profile] dmk.livejournal.com at 08:12pm on 2008-03-19
BTW, I recently heard about LostJournal; You'll need an invite code; I'm dmk over there, also. Haven't had a chance to use it yet.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:17am on 2008-03-20
Oh yeah, I'd been meaning to investigate that one. I think some other folks I know are there, but I'm not sure who.
 
posted by [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com at 08:12pm on 2008-03-19
...never heard of it. :)
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posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:26am on 2008-03-20
Intriguing!

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