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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:26am on 2008-05-27

[Regarding the textbook Biology for Christian Schools, which states at the beginning that the Bible trumps scientific conclusions "no matter how many scientific facts may appear to back them."]

"[...] Apart from all the obvious reasons, of course [...] What bothers me so much about it is how grotesquely disrespectful it is to their own God.

"Let's say you're a theist. Let's say you believe in God, a creator god who made the world and the universe in all its beautiful and astonishing complexity.

"Wouldn't you want to understand that universe, as well and as thoroughly as you could?

"To me, the idea that scientific evidence is always trumped by the Bible is one of the most disrespectful attitudes you could possibly have about God. Even if you believe that the Bible was written by God [...] wouldn't you believe that the universe was also written by God? And in a much more direct way than the Bible was written, without having to be dictated through human secretaries? Wouldn't you put the universe, at the very least, on equal footing with the Bible? In fact, shouldn't you really be seeing the universe as much higher, much more important than the Bible, because the Bible is just one small part of God's creation and the universe is so much more vast?

"It seems to me that setting your human religion above the enormous and awe-inspiring majesty of God's creation is blasphemy of the worst kind. To say that the Bible is always more real than the reality of the universe seems to me to be spitting on God and his creation. And it's not just spitting on the universe: it's spitting on that part of God's creation that is your brain and your mind, your capacity to perceive the universe and use reason and logic to understand it."

-- Greta Christina, "The Blasphemy of Creationism", 2008-0406

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posted by [identity profile] weskeag.livejournal.com at 10:22am on 2008-05-27
Great quote!
 
posted by [identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com at 10:25am on 2008-05-27
We know a song about that, don't we?

Actually, the weirdest attitude I've encountered is the one that says the universe is beyond our understanding despite not having been created by a god. That's "them that do not have the faith|And will not have the fun" with a vengeance.
 
posted by [identity profile] marnanel.livejournal.com at 02:00pm on 2008-05-27
Unexpected Chesterton references FTW! I salute you, sir.
 
posted by [identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com at 11:42am on 2008-05-27
"Wouldn't you want to understand that universe, as well and as thoroughly as you could?"

No, of course not. That's for scientists. Just tell me what is true so I can get on with my life.
 
posted by [identity profile] flaviarassen.livejournal.com at 04:36am on 2008-05-28
I always feel like such an idiot, because, in my mind, creationism
is just saying that "G-d is behind science." However, that is NOT
the case, & it's the fundies' way of shoving their religion down
everyone's throats in a way they think is clever.

I am of the opinion - that is not original with me - that
"Evolution is G-d's tool box."
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posted by [personal profile] jducoeur at 10:21pm on 2008-05-28
This is one of the details I appreciate about Freemasonry. The ritual on the subject talks about "the books of Nature and Revelation". The latter refers to scripture; the former to the world around us. They're explicitly placed on an equal footing. (Which reflects Masonry's rationalist roots.)

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