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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:26am on 2008-07-22

Regarding the US Department of Health and Human Services proposal that would redefine contraception as abortion (by changing the definition of 'pregnant' -- and thus prohibit federal grant recipients from requiring employees to provide contraception or advice regarding it), [info] theweaselking wrote on 2008-07-16:

I'm just waiting for the logical next steps:

1. "Life begins at penetration", so saying "no" after things start is murder.

2. "Life begins at lust", so saying "no" is illegal.

3. "Life begins at menstruation", so not being pregnant is illegal.

At that point, women will have finally taken their proper role, according to the Baptists.

Elsewhere, XNeeOhCon apparently saw a similar progression, writng on 2008-07-15:

I have the solution to this problem. We encourage them to continue this line of logic until they define abstinance as the ultimate birth control which is therefore the ultimate abortion. Then, after their heads explode, we come back in, clean up, and change the laws back to a reasonable level.
There are 9 comments on this entry. (Reply.)
 
posted by [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com at 11:16am on 2008-07-22
oh, these nutjobs absolutely want to roll back griswold v connecticut.
 
posted by [identity profile] en-ki.livejournal.com at 11:34am on 2008-07-22
I need a bumper sticker that says "life begins at erection". It would be very tasteful. It could have a building on it.
 
posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 04:47pm on 2008-07-22
It's really quite simple. They don't believe that people own their own bodies, so therefore they feel justified in forcing women to continue pregnancies they don't want. The whole "murder" thing is a dodge -- you ask most forced-birthers how much time they think the woman should do, and they'll fumfuh at you; the only responsible person, to their minds (because he's the only person, natch) is the presumably-male "abortionist." (That's incidentally also why they continually conflate rape with sex; they don't believe in bodily autonomy, so "consent" is meaningless.)

The paradigm is as follows:

Men's bodies are owned by God, and then the state.
Women's bodies are owned by men, and secondarily by God, then the state.
Children's bodies are owned by men, God, the state, and women.

It's the only way an anti-abortion, pro-war, pro-execution, pro-conscription, antifeminist, pro-slavery mindset makes sense.
 
posted by [identity profile] darwiniacat.livejournal.com at 08:58pm on 2008-07-22
Sounds like it's time to start passing out the celery seed and penny royal abortion pamphlets again.
 
posted by [identity profile] sodyera.livejournal.com at 01:24am on 2008-07-23
There's a throwaway line from "Hellboy II" that seems to fit here:

"I'm not a baby, I'm a tumor!"
 
posted by [identity profile] liritsvoice.livejournal.com at 09:55pm on 2008-07-23
I was thinking along those lines as well. They might as well tie us all down and rape us periodically since they find unfertilized eggs so offensive.
 
posted by [identity profile] darwiniacat.livejournal.com at 06:51pm on 2008-07-24
The birth control being medically necessary for some made me think of you. And me. *sigh*
 
posted by [identity profile] liritsvoice.livejournal.com at 10:26pm on 2008-07-24
May I borrow this for my LJ?
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 01:50am on 2008-07-25
I don't see how I could object, seeing as I borrowed the parts of it from the folks who wrote them...

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