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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:26am on 2008-08-11

"There are guys out there who imagine that anti-discrimination and affirmative action regulations intended to level the playing field put traditionally disadvantaged groups--women, blacks and other ethnic minorites--at an unfair disadvantage because they don't recognize that the treatment that they used to take for granted was in fact a special privilege that members of traditionally disadvantaged groups didn't have.

"They took it for granted that of course they'd be able to get car loans at reasonable terms, that they wouldn't be stuck working at boring dead-end pink-collar jobs, and that they wouldn't have to compete with women or minorities. So to them leveling the playing field looks like putting them down in order to provide unfair advantages to women and minorities.

"They don't believe that women or minorities are disadvantaged and so they read any suggestion that they are as illegitimate 'whining.' But you can't say that about minorities, so women are a surrogate for their complaints. But make no mistake: what's underlying the sexism directed against Clinton is resentment against the recognition that women and minorities have been, and continue to be, disadvantaged and against policies that would level the playing field."

H. E. Baber, 2008-06-13

"My 'friend' at work has been sending me anti-Hillary emails for, oh, about 12 years now. Disgusting jokes. Bad pictures. Photoshopped pictures. Wild stories involving killing Vince Foster and lesbianism. Every month. 12 years. There was a bit of a flurry in 2004 - a bunch of John Kerry is a traitor emails. But the constant was Hillary Clinton.

[...]

"If you all think that this won't happen to Michelle Obama you are sadly mistaken. Just wait until she has anything to say about any little policy an Obama administration might consider.

"And when the shit comes down no doubt you will all gasp and clutch at your pearls - how dare they do that to Michelle - those racists!

"Another work 'friend' put it well today: 'GWB has been a disaster, but at least Laura knew how to act like a first lady.' Better start teaching Michelle how to bake fucking cookies...that's all she will be doing in a few months. And that's not about racism, my friends."

-- luko, 2008-06-13

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posted by [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com at 12:21pm on 2008-08-11
"women, blacks and other ethnic minorites--at an unfair disadvantage"

I think the OP meant 'unfair advantage', in context. And, yeah. This is particularly interesting in the light of International Blog Against Racism Week and this year's theme of Intersectionality.

(And also true, and sad, and really really frustrating.)
 
posted by [identity profile] flaviarassen.livejournal.com at 01:58pm on 2008-08-11
It's even better coming from a man.
 
posted by [identity profile] bunnyjadwiga.livejournal.com at 05:08pm on 2008-08-11
I appreciate the quotes, but I do get very, very tired of listening to second-wave feminists on "Hillary lost to Obama because he's a man". Admittedly, had Hillary won, we would have sat through the idea that Obama lost because of racism; but I strongly suspect it is merely that Obama was the right candidate for the left at the right time, and anyone who had a history of traditional politics was doomed-- not to mention that Hillary's potential First Spouse definitely was NOT First Spouse material. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] flaviarassen.livejournal.com at 02:59am on 2008-08-12
Hillary had/has her flaws, but:

a) she was treated like dirt by the MSM & her own party
far out of proportion to said flaws

b) Obama has done things that would have sunk her outright
a lot earlier, and is doing them ever harder now that he
has the nomination.

But yes, if he had lost, we'd have had to sit through the
charges of racism. & I fully expect to be hearing them in
November.

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