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Arguments What Hurt My Brane

posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 11:49pm on 2009-06-18

Shelby County (Tennessee) Commissioner Wyatt Bunker was quoted in an article about a proposed antidiscrimination measure (published 2009-05-06) thus: "I don't belive people are born gay. I don't agree with discrimination against them, but I'm not going to give them a lot of protections that give legitimacy to homosexual behavior."

So let's see whether I've translated this correctly: "I don't agree with discrimination but I think it's important to make sure the county that I help run is allowed to discriminate." (Why, Mr. Bunker? In case you change your mind about discriminating ... or get caught at it?)

Elsewhere, unrelatedly, I observe that reading (paraphrased, but only barely), "Maybe if you weren't so rude and hostile as to call what I said 'the Tone Argument' and label it derailing, I'd be more inclined to listen to your objections to it," really makes my head hurt.

(The thought that I may have been that clueless sometime in the past does not help.)

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posted by [personal profile] cellio at 01:34pm on 2009-06-19
I've seen that argument before, and what it usually means is "discrimination for things that aren't your fault is wrong, but you chose to be gay and it's not discrimination if your choices lead to things you don't like". I have no idea if that's Bunker's position.
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posted by [personal profile] siderea at 04:30pm on 2009-06-19
No, that argument usually means, "I want to discriminate against you, so I'm going to use the incredibly specious, hypocritical and self-serving rationale that only in-born traits are wrong to discriminate against, even though if someone were to discriminate against me for chosing to be a Christian I would be outraged at their presumption."
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