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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:26am on 2009-07-17

[Note: I have not seen Bruno (nor Borat). I am reporting things others have said that I thought sounded interesting, but am not in a position to comment on the movie myself or judge how well the folks quoted below have interpreted it.]

"It should not have taken Bruno for people to realize exactly what Cohen is about. He has always chosen 'the other' as a safe target for his so-called satire.

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"Cohen is not brave, he is not transgressive, he is not cool. He picks on the 'other'. He is a bully and a bigot. His creations are modern-day minstrel shows. His shows are 'Jackass' filled with hateful stereotypes."

-- figfest (commenter at Pam's House Blend), 2009-07-11

"Cohen clearly doesn't understand the difference between satire and schoolboy nastiness. And obviously,neither do a lot of critics or a sizable section of the public." -- QScribe (also at PHB), 2009-07-11

"[...] I don't think Bruno creates more homophobia so much as exposes it a bit more precisely." -- PghLesbian (from the same comment stream as the previous two)< 2009-07-11

"I think Cohen's biggest problem is overestimating his audience, and expecting them to be sophisticated enough to get the joke and the ultimate point. You'd think he would realize that the same phobic people he skewers in the film will be the ones going to see it, but he's not American. I think our real frustration with him is that we know his audience better than he does." -- jackalope (same thread), 2009-07-11

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posted by (anonymous) at 01:58pm on 2009-07-17
I haven't seen Bruno yet, and have no intention of seeing it in the theater (nor going out of my way to rent it), but I found Borat hilarious.
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posted by [personal profile] skreidle at 02:00pm on 2009-07-17
I haven't seen Bruno yet, and have no intention of seeing it in the theater (nor going out of my way to rent it), but I found Borat hilarious.
 
posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 03:03pm on 2009-07-17
His father is a sociologist with some really weird ideas about women, and who has hopped on the evo-psych bandwagon in a big way, so the younger Baron-Cohen's warped worldview surprises me not a bit.
 
posted by [identity profile] kolraashgadol.livejournal.com at 01:34am on 2009-07-19
I'm an editor on a fairly well-read Jewish blog, and I have to say, we have had this very same argument over Cohen - several times. It occurred after each movie was released, and also over episodes of his show. I think the basic breakdown appears to be: he's a satirist in the same mold as Sarah Silverman, where your laughter is supposed to induce you to look at your self; the response to that being either that most people don't get to the self-examination part, or that a lot of his targets are meanspirited on his part - that he humiliates people who are actually acting quite decently.
I don't have an opinion, as I haven't bothered to see either film,neither of which looked all that compelling to me.

Alana

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