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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:25am on 2010-10-10

From the Quotation of the day mailing list, 2008-09-21:

"Now we must redefine tool, redefine man, or accept chimpanzees as human." -- Louis Leakey, from a telegram he sent Jane Goodall after hearing of her discovery that chimps fashion and use tools.
Quoted in Jane Goodall: The Woman Who Redefined Man.

(submitted to the mailing list by Mike Krawchuk)

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posted by [personal profile] metahacker at 01:11pm on 2010-10-10
The increasingly torturous definitions of sapient so as to include human and exclude everyone else was also the hallmark of mainstream AI for 40 years. Intelligent was "that thing that humans are", and humans are "those that are intelligent", and every time we taught a computer (or a chimp, or octopus, or parrot) to do something previously categorized under "intelligent", the noose tightened and the definition changed...
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posted by [personal profile] polydad at 02:34pm on 2010-10-11
Wait-- chimps aren't human? I know many dogs who are smarter, more moral, and more ethical than my Congressman; are we finally going to get around to admitting that as component parts of the Universe, the only thing that makes being human "special" is the *products* of our skills and abilities?

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Joel. Who *does* know it's National Coming Out Day, and needs to locate a closet so as to have something out of which to come.
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