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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:25am on 2011-04-28

"The working class conservative argument against union is one of resentment (as opposed to the upper class conservative one, which is one of egoist self-interest). They complain that people who actually fought to get better conditions and wages actually got something, while they're too meek and obedient and figure if they kiss enough ass they'll get the same, then wonder why the bosses never get around to giving them what they feel are their due (seriously employers must love those people, who will brown nose forever as long as you wave a carrot around, even if you never give it to them).

"Then they turn around and accuse people on welfare to have a sense of entitlement. Like everything that comes out of a conservative mouth, you can bet it's our old friend Projection."

-- Pandagon commenter BlackBloc, 2011-03-24


"And if you're grousing about union people having more benefits than you... maybe you should consider joining a union. After all, if the rich can Get Theirs why can't we Get Ours?" -- [info] malada, 2011-03-13

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posted by [personal profile] adalger at 04:09pm on 2011-04-28
"And if you're grousing about union people having more benefits than you... maybe you should consider joining a union."


Except that unions are designed to favor those who already are members over those who are not. They create barriers to entry into a given occupation, in the same way that professional organizations do, not for the benefit of poor people, but for the benefit of those who already possess the privelege of employment in that profession. They help those who are in by keeping outsiders out.

Sure, I'd love to join the UAW. But first I'd have to be able to get a job as an auto worker. The very existence of the UAW makes that more difficult than it would be without.

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