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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:25am on 2011-06-10

"When I was growing up, one of the Prime Directives of Liberalism was, Thou Shalt Not Judge What Thy Fellow Citizens do in the Privacy of Their Own Fucking Sex Lives." -- [info] jdquintette 2011-06-08

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posted by (anonymous) at 10:54am on 2011-06-10
In general, sure, but that can be taken too far, too. Privacy is not the only value (like suppose the privacy of one's sex life involves the literal kind of slavery? I don't think that the most ardent liberal would - or should- go along with that. And the personal is still political...)
 
posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 06:40pm on 2011-06-10
There are already people doing that, quietly, far underground. I know this because a friend of mine is peripherally involved in some D/s stuff and got the idea to try to write a "slave contract" that would hold up in court, covering pretty much exactly that circumstance, and started to hear from various corners that people were interested. He wasn't quite expecting that, frankly.

We're both about as leftist (not liberal) as it gets. Personally, I think the sex angle makes it more acceptable than, say, selling yourself into slavery to escape homelessness or something, since there's much less of an element of coercion.

I also know there are already people who engage in serious self-mutilation (one case I heard of involved a man who castrated/emasculated himself) as part of extremely kinky sex. Even though medical care is taxpayer-funded up here, I don't really want to see this kind of thing illegalised, even though I think it's really stupid.

Once the government starts telling you specifically what you can and can't do with your body, you get into all sorts of parlous territory with respect to rights, which also happens to be my main argument in favour of abortion. Do we really want to start establishing broad legal precedents allowing the government to dictate what we can and cannot do with/to our own bodies? I think that's a really bad idea, because if you don't at least own your own body, you've really got no rights worth mentioning.

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