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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 09:45pm on 2011-08-21

I am one of those privileged folks who can afford to use my "real name"[*] ('etymonym'?) for my web presence. The "common names" by which I am currently most known by can be interpolated from my etymonym, so I'm reasonably findable-ish -- more so if I can make a nickname or two visible along with it. And partly through choices made decades ago, partly through not having anything much to lose, and a whole lot from not being in the most endangered minorities[**] or living/working in circumstances where danger to such minorities is a constant threat ... a whole lot from having white privilege and the not-insignificant privilege of a middle-class background (this is part of the foundation the aforementioned relative safety is built upon) even though I currently lack any semblance of middle-class finances ... I can afford to post the vast majority of what it occurs to me to write, under my findable, real-world etymonym.

As has been painstakingly noted elsewhere several times, many people lack that safety that allows me to post all sorts of stuff under my easy-to-find-me-in-meatspace name. And as has been adequately, if less emphatically documented elsewhere, some people who want to be found are not findable under anything Google considers a "real" name because their common names bear no resemblance to their legal names.

I even have a non-scary, non-'weird', WASPonym, so even to folks who want to make sure their user base doesn't look 'foreign' or 'minority' to a provincial USian audience, I should still be in safe territory.

I'm a geek, I have a lot of friends, I'm chock full of "can afford to blog under my meatspace name" privilege, and my name is safely WASPy. If I weren't so badly put off by Google's lack of concern for my pseudonymous-for-safety friends and acquaintances, unhelpfulness to my known-for-years-by-handle / unfindable-under-wallet-name friends, and lack of respect for "funny-named furriners", I'd be a perfect fit for Google Plus, wouldn't I?

My legal signature, the name on my debit card, the name on my checks, my name on snail-mail catalogs and newsletters and utility bills addressed to me, my name in recording credits and theatre programs and in copyright notices on my tunes and photos, the name displayed on my vanity website, the human-name field that appears in From: headers on email I send and Usenet articles I post, these all match, though admittedly I do use a shortened form when introducing myself in a spoken, rather than written, medium, and I do use a rearranged version as my SCA / Markland / RenFest persona-name. This would fit pretty much anyone's notion of a "real" name, right?

Maybe not. If I understand correctly, Google wants a "first name" and a "last name" with no spaces and only particular punctuation. Since my real name / common name is in the first-initial+middle-name+last-name+generational-suffix format[***], it looks like I only have a few choices:

  • Ignore the no-spaces rule and enter "D. Glenn" for a first name and "Arthur Jr." for a last name (this works on some sites) and hope I don't get punted for not following their directions,
  • Strip it down to the spoken form, "Glenn Arthur", which bumps me into the hard-to-tell-apart-from-similarly-named-people category (so much for the "easier to find you if you use [our perverse notion of] your real name" business), or
  • Use my actual first name ... which, last I checked, few of my friends, almost none of my acquaintances, and none of the not-even-acquaintances who've read my stories, essays, poems, etc., even know (utterly defeating the purpose).

Doing a Google web search on "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." (with quotes), ninety eight of the first hundred hits actually referred to me. (Not all especially usefully, but all me.) Using "Glenn Arthur", only five of the first hundred hits had anything to do with me, though one was at least in the first page of results, so it could've been worse. (With my name as I write it, you have to go all the way to the fourth page to find the first result that isn't clearly me, and the seventh page to find the next one.)

Now I may not really have standing to complain about this, given that I've already said I've been put off of Google Plus by their failure to accomodate so many people I know (and even more I'm learning about) with really good reasons for using pseudonyms (and I'm not too happy about the folks with weaker reasons for uing pseudonyms getting screwed either). But I do feel impelled to point out that even for what Google thinks of as "real names", and the kinds of real names they seem to want (i.e. not-scary-to-provincial-WASPs), their approach to names is Fundamentally Broken.

So even if you spot them the "real names are more civil" thing (uh, refuted in a recent study, n'est-ce pas?) and the "no 'funny-looking' names" bigotry, they're still being stupid. If you're going to stake so much reputation on your insistence on folks using Real Names, then you have to accomodate real-world real names. I find it that much harder to take seriously any of the "real names" arguments of Google and its supporters in the nymwars, when they're not even making a serious attempt to handle real names.

But hey, I guess it helps me resist any temptation to sign up (to be able to post comments) despite my distaste for the no-pseudos policy.

[*] Let's brush aside for now the whole question of what the %$#@ "real" means here. That's a whole 'nuther, longer essay, innit?

[**] Not to minimize the risk of violence from being trans, but that's more likely to be triggered in person. AFAICT, there are more dangerous things to be out as online.

[***] "But first-initial-middle-name is unusual..." Well, just off the top of my head: F. Scott Fitzgerald, L. Frank Baum, J. Edgar Hoover, G. Gordon Liddy, J. Michael Straczynski; a few selected results from S'ingTFW: C. Northcote Parkinson, E. Allan Farnsworth, E. Power Biggs, F. Lee Bailey, H. Ross Perot, J. Paul Getty, J. Robert Oppenheimer, L. Ron Hubbard, L. Sprague de Camp, T. Boone Pickens, T. Rowe Price ... and goodness knows how many non-famous ones! It may be a less common format percentagewise, but it's a long way from being "rare".

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posted by (anonymous) at 03:02am on 2011-08-22
Hi, David. :-)
eftychia: Cartoon of me playing electric guitar (debtoon)
posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 03:04am on 2011-08-22
That does seem to be the most common first guess ...

(I sometimes tell people it stands for "de one an' only".)
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posted by [personal profile] persis at 11:33am on 2011-08-22
hmmm... I think I know your given first name, but only because of a phone call I got back in February. I tried to contact you, but got no reply. What is your preferred e-dress? (You can reply to my first name at my last name dot name.)
eftychia: Lego-ish figure in blue dress, with beard and breasts, holding sword and electric guitar (lego-blue)
posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 12:41pm on 2011-08-22
dglenn@panix.com
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
posted by [personal profile] twistedchick at 03:22pm on 2011-08-22
My mother, if she were alive and online, would be in your situation. She did not use her first name at all except as an initial; I don't know what so offended her about it, but it was plain fact. She was M. Aileen or Ailie all her life, and would have given holy hell to anyone who said she had to be anything else.
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posted by [personal profile] minoanmiss at 04:15pm on 2011-08-22
Goodness, my first name hyphen disqualifies me, doesn't it? Rargh.
eftychia: A musical Jolly Roger using a tambourine, a pair of zills, a keychain-sized set of panpipes, and two soprano recorders (JollyRoger)
posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 07:59pm on 2011-08-22
I'm not sure about hyphens -- unusual punctuation is disallowed, and I recall seeing complaints about apostrophes causing trouble, but I don't remember whether hyphens are considered "ordinary" puctuation or not.

And all of this is stuff that -- even if we grant them the arguably racist "normal [American] looking names" constraint -- would be understandable in a high school student's first computer program, but shouldn't get a passing grade in a freshman college programming class, much less show up in a real-world professional large-scale system.

Not that Google is the only entity making such boneheaded name-format assumptions, mind you. (On the web, similar examples abound.) Just that after all their fuss about "real[-looking] names", I'm not willing to cut them any slack for getting real real-names wrong.

Especially when (AIUI) their data-entry form does let names like this in, and then they kick people off for using these names! The usual pattern is a company that means to allow correct names but gets the validation code wrong on the form.

Which is worse, not being able to enter your name in the first place, or being able to enter it correctly and then being kicked off with a "your name doesn't look right" notice days or weeks later?
minoanmiss: Minoan lady watching the Thera eruption (Lady and Eruption)
posted by [personal profile] minoanmiss at 12:32am on 2011-08-24
Oh, no, I completely agree with you. That was just what occured to me.

Which is worse, not being able to enter your name in the first place, or
being able to enter it correctly and then being kicked off with a "your
name doesn't look right" notice days or weeks later?



A choice of suckitudes!
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posted by [personal profile] flit at 05:11am on 2011-08-24
Someone was auto-suspended for changing to their full legal name, which contained a hyphen on the first name. They then had to submit ID to prove it to Google, which is another rant entirely.
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posted by [personal profile] flit at 05:12am on 2011-08-24
I have been watching the results of this policy in horror (it is enforced in a wildly inconsistent manner, to make matters even worse) and it has definitely worn all the shiny off not just Google+, but Google as a whole.

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