posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 06:02pm on 2012-07-13
I'm really glad we don't hear about Mitt Romney's ankles. I'd have preferred not to hear about Hillary Clinton's ankles as well.

Interesting thing to note -- Gloria Feldt refers to Hillary Clinton as "Hillary," but Molly Paige refers to Mitt Romney as "Mitt Romney." I smell internalised sexism...
 
posted by (anonymous) at 02:11am on 2012-07-14
Yup.
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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 03:10am on 2012-07-14
Doh! I often catch that (I want to say "usually', but I wouldn't notice exactly how many times I miss it, would I?), and have been trying to pay attention to it since I first noticed in 2008 that most people referred to "Obama", "Kucinich", "McCain", "Hillary", etc. Here I was caught up in the explicit point and overlooked the women-by-first-name thing that I'd been trying to watch out for elsewhere. Hmph.
 
posted by (anonymous) at 03:10pm on 2012-07-15
Part of that may be that Sec. Clinton has a rather prominent husband, and referring to her as "Clinton" may be confusing to some extent.
But then, "Sec. Clinton" would clarify that easily...
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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 06:19pm on 2012-07-15
That was the reason I thought of at first, but then when I paid more attention I noticed that the pattern continued even in contexts where there was no ambiguity (which, yeah, could've been habit/inertia, but was still less excusable), and started seeing the pattern elsewhere, which reinforced my idea that it is a pattern (but alas I don't think I took notes on exactly what I was noticing, unless I posted a blog comment about it at the time).

I remember hearing the Bush secretary of state referred to as "Condi" more often than "Rice" ... but on the other hand, I never hear Justice Ginsberg referred to as merely "Ruth".

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