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"I believe that we are going to win this in the end -- I hope the end comes next June, with a Supreme Court decision upholding marriage equality, upholding, the, you know, radical idea that gays and lesbians are entitled to equal protection under the law like everybody else -- but if we lose -- and we could very well lose -- we haven't lost. This battle isn't over until we win. That's what we saw in Maine: two years ago in Maine we lost at the ballot box, and a state marriage law that'd been approved by the legislature, signed by the governor, was overturned by the voters, and we went back to the ballot box two years later and we won. The marriage fight is over when we say it's over, and it's over when we win. So even if we lose at the Supreme Court, there will be other Supreme Court tests and cases 'cause we're going to keep living, existing, coming out, marrying, and suing until we get justice." -- Dan Savage, on the MSNBC television program Up with Chris Hayes, 2012-12-09 (depening on exactly when your recording starts, the segment starts around 01:19:20 -- it's a two-hour show -- and the quoted section is from around 01:21:25 to about 01:22:13) Underline emphasis reflects Savage's inflection, bold emphasis added by me to highlight what you might call 'the quote within the quote'. Any transcription errors also added by me.