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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:24am on 2017-09-24

"[...] one of humanity's tragic flaws is to take for granted the gargantuan effort needed to create and maintain even little temporary pockets of order. Again and again, people imagine that, if their local pocket of order isn't working how they want, then they should smash it to pieces, since while admittedly that might make things even worse, there's also at least 50/50 odds that they'll magically improve. In reasoning thus, people fail to appreciate just how exponentially more numerous are the paths downhill, into barbarism and chaos, than are the few paths further up. So thrashing about randomly, with no knowledge or understanding, is statistically certain to make things worse: on this point thermodynamics, common sense, and human history are all in total agreement. The implications of these musings for the present would be left as exercises for the reader." -- Scott Aaronson, 2017-01-01

[To my friends observing Tzom Gedaliah, may you have an easy fast.]

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posted by [personal profile] minoanmiss at 02:46am on 2017-09-25
I want to agree with this except for how often the people who won me the rights I have (Civil Rights protestors, suffragettes, anti-slavery efforts) have been accused of trying to destroy societal order and bring about chaos. Not all sorts of order should be preserved.
eftychia: Me in kilt and poofy shirt, facing away, playing acoustic guitar behind head (Default)
posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 04:14am on 2017-09-25

Yabbut ... they had a plan to build something (that their critics feared or opposed, but still building). I heard people saying they were voting for Trump not because they wanted anything he wanted/proposed/promised, but because they figured he'd simply Break Things and they projected their dreams onto the expected wreckage. Those are, I think, the folks Mr. Aaronsson is addressing.

eftychia: Me in kilt and poofy shirt, facing away, playing acoustic guitar behind head (Default)
posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 04:32am on 2017-09-25

(I guess what I'm trying to point to is the difference between voting for someone because you think they'll bring chaos, and voting for someone you think will build things despite other people claiming they'll produce chaos.)

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posted by [personal profile] minoanmiss at 04:32am on 2017-09-25
Oh, I heard those idiots ... people too, which is why I want to agree with the above quotation, a lot. I'm just wary.
eftychia: Me in kilt and poofy shirt, facing away, playing acoustic guitar behind head (Default)
posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 04:36am on 2017-09-25

Fair enough.

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