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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 06:25am on 2018-03-11

Argh, blackletter. Caroligian Minuscule was a legible hand. Insular, too. But a couple hundred years after they had those perfectly reasonable scripts ... somebody had to invent Fraktur. *sigh*

I'm trying to read something from a book that uses a lot of Fraktur or some similar blackletter typeface. Any Latin or French or Italian name or word -- or Roman numerals -- got set in an almost modern-looking, very clear typeface, but everything that's German text or organ tabulature is in blackletter. I think I'm okay on the lowercase -- I'm sure this snippet:

is "c d e d c h c h a g" (well, c-overbar, d-overbar, etc. -- the overbars mean "an octave higher", and the octave seems to start on H (b-natural) though I think I've spotted inconsistencies in that). But I could use a sanity-check on uppercase, since I'm looking at strings that aren't words. With that in mind, am I correct in reading this:

as "c G c d e d e d e f"? That second letter looks awfully B-ish, but it's not actually a B, right? And this:

is "f d e f g e f g   c G A h c h c h A h"? Or are those uppercase H, since they appear to be larger than the h in the first snippet? (I tried to make all these snippets the same scale, not zooming at all between screengrabs, but I'm not entirely sure converting from TIFF to PNG in Preview preserved that.) Though if those really are H instead of h, I think I'm going to treat that as a typo because jumps of a diminished ninth are out of character for the rest of the piece.

If you're interested in what the thing I'm snipping these strings from looks like, here's three measures worth:

The piece all these are from is "Da bei rami" by Clémentine de Bourges, taken from Ein schön nutz unnd gebreüchlich Orgel Tabulaturbuch (Jacob Paix, 1583, Getruckt bey Leonhart Reinmichel, Lauingen, Germany). That PDF is huge, but I have a smaller file containing just the cover and the pages for this tune. I'm just about finished transcribing it into standard modern notation (by way of ABC), but for proofreading the notes that go down into the uppercase octave and getting confirmation that this:

really does mean "[triplet: c# b-natural c#] [triplet: d c-natural d]", which so far has been the only sense I've managed to make of it. (What resembles an 'ae' ligature is, I'm pretty sure, a 'c' followed by the 'sharp' curlicue. Elsewhere there are what look like 'fe' ligatures that pretty much have to be f-sharps.) And that I'm putting my b-naturals in the correct octaves. So I guess in addition to somebody unfazed by Fraktur, I could use input from somebody who reads mensural notation.

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twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
posted by [personal profile] twistedchick at 12:04am on 2018-03-12
The B looks an awful lot to me like an est-set -- a double S. (I probably misspelled the name; it's been a long time since German class.) Alternatively, it's a capital B, and I have no idea what that means in the context here.
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
posted by [personal profile] twistedchick at 12:05am on 2018-03-12
And I think that's uppercase A, not H. Again, not certain.
eftychia: Me in kilt and poofy shirt, facing away, playing acoustic guitar behind head (Default)
posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 12:32am on 2018-03-12
Which is the A you're seeing? We're talking about the bass voice in the last measure shown, yah?

1 - & - 2 - & - 3 - & - 4 + & +
c   ?   ?   h   c   h   c h ? h
.   G?  A?  H?  .   .   . . A?.


Or am I looking in the wrong place?
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
posted by [personal profile] twistedchick at 03:21am on 2018-03-12
I'm looking at the section after fdefgefg. What I see is cBAh something.

And fraktur makes my head hurt.
eftychia: Me in kilt and poofy shirt, facing away, playing acoustic guitar behind head (Default)
posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 12:21am on 2018-03-12
Pretty sure it can't be an eszett, since each note has to be one letter in the range A-H (which is also why the ones that look like 'fe' or 'ce' have to be F# and C#). Capital B would mean a low B-flat. But there's an even more B-looking letter earlier in the piece...

(*grrr* Fraktur.)

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