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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:24am on 2018-10-21

"If you are saying 'Oh well, boys will be boys' in reference to sexual assault, YOU are the one who is saying that all men are inherent rapists. Feminists believe that men aren't inherently violent but are instead taught that. Just so we're clear on who is truly 'anti-men' here." -- Lauren Rankin (@laurenarankin), 2018-09-17

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gingicat: deep purple lilacs, some buds, some open (Default)

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posted by [personal profile] gingicat at 11:38am on 2018-10-21
Yup.
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dewline: Text - "On the DEWLine" (Default)

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posted by [personal profile] dewline at 07:45pm on 2018-10-21
Seems clear enough.

*moves on*
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marahmarie: (M In M Forever) (Default)

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posted by [personal profile] marahmarie at 05:40am on 2018-10-22
I've had enough men say, "I would never ____ [fill in blank]" or "No, not all guys think that way/do that sort of thing" or, "No, me/my friends would NEVER ____" that I tend to believe that even given what they're taught there are some who can think past it. Just because you're taught something doesn't mean you'll choose to do it. (We could all be taught in childhood to go jump off bridges, for example, if we have a single, impure thought, but likely that wouldn't work out too well, either). Besides that, I have a place to (belatedly) run this quote, so was wondering if I could?
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eftychia: Lego-ish figure in blue dress, with beard and breasts, holding sword and electric guitar (lego-blue)

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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 02:58pm on 2018-10-22
Um, I don't think I would have any moral authority for saying no, since they're @laurenarankin's words, not mine.[*] If you feel like mentioning that you saw it through my posting it, great, but I'd say even that is optional since ultimately I have no claim on what @laurenarankin wrote.

And yes, even given what society and even often parents teach, not all lessons stick, thank goodness. Heck, society and my parents tried really hard to teach me I was supposed to be a man, and I'm not ...

[*] My thinking is: it was posted in public without any visible "please don't quote" notices and -- importantly -- the quotation is short enough to seem in my non-lawyerly opinion to be a fair-use-suitable size, so it should be okay (I hope) for me to have quoted.
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marahmarie: (M In M Forever) (Default)

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posted by [personal profile] marahmarie at 12:58am on 2018-10-23
Well, I was going to link to you/your post directly but of course I can do it the other way, too, in which case I agree no credit would be needed.

And yes, even given what society and even often parents teach, not all lessons stick, thank goodness. Heck, society and my parents tried really hard to teach me I was supposed to be a man, and I'm not...

See, I could go on and on over what society taught any of us and how malleable and quite frankly rebellious (but in an instinctually and emotionally intelligent way) human nature can actually be. Society taught me to be...a lot of things..but the older I get the more I find I'll consciously rebel as opposed to quietly accepting how I'm supposed to act/what I'm supposed to say/do/think.

Which is why, "Oh, but society socializes men to be rapists/murderers/plunderers/warriors" strikes me as quite frankly bullshit. Society socialized me to be June Cleaver with more than a dash of "human doormat" thrown in, but you'll find that's not actually who or what I am. It's just another way to apologize for, overlook or justify putting up with bad men and I'm not buying one more minute of anyone's air time on that.
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eftychia: Me in kilt and poofy shirt, facing away, playing acoustic guitar behind head (Default)

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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 04:00am on 2018-10-23

Oh! Of course you can link directly here if you prefer! Sorry, I misunderstood.

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marahmarie: (M In M Forever) (Default)

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posted by [personal profile] marahmarie at 05:16am on 2018-10-23
It's alright because in retrospect, I was not at all that clear. Thanks. :)
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marahmarie: (M In M Forever) (Default)

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posted by [personal profile] marahmarie at 05:17am on 2018-10-23
Also, that icon is just perfect for this.
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