The Master said, "I have not seen a firm and unbending man." Some one replied, "There is Shan Ch'ang." "Ch'ang," said the Master, "is under the influence of his passions; how can he be pronounced firm and unbending?" -- from Confucian Analects, traditionally attributed to students of Confucius (b. 551 BCE, d. 479 BCE), translated by James Legge (b. 1815-12-20, d. 1897-11-29), Book V, chapter X