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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:24am on 2021-10-04

"The article from The Wall Street Journal suggests that nations like Australia, China, and New Zealand-countries that have embraced a policy of eliminating COVID-19 completely-are being 'unrealistic.' The right answer, according to The WSJ, is to hustle COVID-19 into the endemic phase, and learn to live with it.

"This, and this is a carefully considered response, is not just a formula for millions of deaths, but an absolute ticket to the end of the line for America, and likely for what we currently think of as modern society. We simply cannot live with endemic COVID-19.

[...]

"It would look like a world where businesses and schools frequently have to close for days or weeks because too many people were simply too ill to carry on. On a purely economic basis, the CDC estimates that outages due to the flu cost American business over $10 billion a year; COVID-19's impact would be many times that amount, and far more disruptive.

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"Endemic COVID-19 doesn't mean it boils at a low level everywhere, filling a predictable 10% of hospital beds and generating lots of opportunities to send bedside balloons that could be appreciated by patients in between visits from comfort dogs. Endemic COVID-19 would behave exactly the same as epidemic COVID-19: in surges, waves, or spikes-pick your descriptor. Every single locality in the nation would be subject to a possible overrun of the local healthcare system at any time.

"The scenes that have appeared so many times over the last year-tents being erected in parking lots, exhausted nurses wandering hallways choked with patients-would recur again and again, unless the healthcare system is expanded to deal with a world where not only is median hospital bed and ICU occupancy considerably higher, but both are subject to a maximum rate that far exceeds capacity.

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"Those opening their arms to endemic COVID-19 are forgetting what might be the most important factors of this whole discussion: Social distancing measures have been wildly effective. Masks work. Limitations on social gatherings work. Required testing and checks for vaccination work.

"Drop all that for 'normal,' and what will come won't be 'like the pandemic, but manageable.' It will be 'like the pandemic, and quite a bit worse.'

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"Going back to our watercooler, when Cecelia comes back to the office after two weeks of flu, she may be wiped out from body aches and dehydration. But she doesn't come back with hearing loss, brain fog, and a fresh case of diabetes. Thus the cost of COVID-19 can't be compared to that of the flu, because in addition to the greater number of deaths, COVID-19 causes enormously more long-term illness than any current endemic disease."

-- Mark Sumner ([twitter.com profile] Devilstower), "COVID-19 must be eliminated, not become endemic, if America is to survive", 2021-10-02 [go read the whole thing, for numbers and reasoning and just how horrible it'd be]

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sabotabby: there's no point to an apocalypse if you still have to work (pointless apocalypse)
posted by [personal profile] sabotabby at 11:36am on 2021-10-04
This is what I keep thinking but I think our politicians and health authorities have given up and managed to convince most of the population that endemic covid will be like the flu and that it's okay if they die for capitalism.
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posted by [personal profile] dewline at 06:00pm on 2021-10-04
I refuse to be sacrificed to the Pandemic Perversion of Capitalism, not without a fight to survive being sacrificed. Same goes for standing by and watching you and yours be sacrificed.
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posted by [personal profile] conuly at 02:06pm on 2021-10-04
Note: We don't actually know the rate of post-viral illness from flu because we've been determined to ignore it as much as possible, and claim it's "psychological" when it couldn't be ignored.
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posted by [personal profile] extraarcha at 03:23pm on 2021-10-04
Overall, a very good article.

I keep reading “the numbers” of cases and deaths in the U.S. — what nobody seems to remember is to point out and emphasize that the numbers are just cases we have had reported, not the actual cases, which is somewhat higher — even perhaps a lot higher. "Red” states are not reporting or are fudging their numbers. Florida is totally documented as doing this and if you think it's the only one, i have bridges for sale.

Not only that, but testing results are completely inaccurate for giving the number infected. Not being done nearly enough or widely enough. So lots of cases are flying under the radar. Case count relies on positive tests for those who manage to avoid hospitalization.

Then there is "the numbers” in foreign countries — again, if you believe Russia (among many others) is reporting accurate “numbers" — some of the bridges are located on ocean front property.

  [Posted this another place, but it needs to go viral to get politicians (and media) focusing on reality.]
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posted by [personal profile] marahmarie at 05:08am on 2021-10-05
I mean, the way I see it, the way things are going (and forget holding out any hope at all if the Rs take it all back in '22) it's *going* to be endemic. There is no stopping it; it's too late.

Academics, medical pros, philosophers and another 50-70 million of us or so can do all the hand-wringing and "we can't evens" that they want; nothing's going to change.

This administration and a little over one year left on a bare D congressional majority is the last good chance we have and it's going ever-more-disastrously thanks to the never-ending civil disobedience on the other side.
Edited (clarity) Date: 2021-10-05 05:10 am (UTC)

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