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posted by [personal profile] minoanmiss at 01:15pm on 2022-08-05
So true, and yet another realization which shocked me.
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posted by [personal profile] nancylebov at 02:21pm on 2022-08-05
I quoted your link on Facebook, and got some replies back about pro-martyrdom material from the Talmud. There may be a cultural difference, but not as stark as the quote makes it.

My impression is that Christians (maybe Catholics in particular) are more fervent about martyrdom than Jews.

https://www.facebook.com/nancy.lebovitz/posts/pfbid02TKXgnbWSVdp57gySojMfycAhauSuZqMQPcRBZMxrCqNk9rxhMmLP11cRo7tKuEsVl?comment_id=1074973123225479¬if_id=1659708337260122¬if_t=feed_comment&ref=notif
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posted by [personal profile] cellio at 03:21am on 2022-08-17

There are a few things where, if someone points a gun at your head and says "do this or I splatter you", you have to take the bullet according to Judaism. You can't murder someone to save your own life, for instance. ("Why do you think that your blood is redder than his?", the talmud asks.) But it's limited and, from what I've seen, it's more like "doing what one must" than something to be happy about. Human life is valuable, and for most things, you can violate Jewish law to save life.

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