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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 06:00am on 2003-05-17

Thursday night / Friday morning I went through the messages in my mailbox flagged "new", answered a couple of them, left a bunch in my mailbox marked as "read" to file later, copied several to a "these are messages I really need to deal with when I have the energy to cope" file so they won't get overlooked in the main mailbox, and deleted gobs of spammage.

A few minutes ago I started to do the same thing again, but figured I'd take some notes.

  • 447 new messages arrived Friday, most of which were sorted into other files by Procmail in the process of being delivered. (I had to cat some stuff together to look up this number.)
  • 79 new messages in my mail mailbox -- after anything sent to a mailing list, certain automatic notifications and everything my old spam filters know how to detect is already filed elsewhere.
  • 68 real spam messages missed by my filter.
  • 1 "effectively spam" message (that I don't want, but it's a side effect of having signed up for something, so I just ignore it and don't consider it complainable).
  • 4 LiveJournal notifications.
  • 2 "Hey look at this URL" messages from a friend.
  • 3 messages related to business (one from someone I owed money to (check mailed Friday afternoon) and two from one of the photo labs I use).
  • 1 just-keeping-in-touch message.
So thats 69 in the "general spammage" category after crude filtering, 6 "real" messages, and 4 "automtic notification of activity elsewhere" messages. A seven-to-one ratio of junk:real, and a 12:1 ratio of "stuff that gets in the way of seeing the urgent messages" : "stuff I need to deal with". (Yes, I know I can turn off the LJ messages, but I like getting notified ... what I should do instead (and will do Real Soon Now) is make a separate folder of LJ notifications and tell Procmail to sort them into that.)

I was an early-adopter of email. Before I even got access to Usenet (I wasn't even close to ARPAnet then, and there wasn't anything called the Internet yet), I was using an email system that [livejournal.com profile] dmk implemented to deliver messages between users of the HP3000 we had accounts on. I used to keep up with steady conversations in email along with monitoring and posting to a bunch of Usenet newsgroups. I've been in the "check my mail every time I walk past a terminal/computer" club for a very long time. I was subscribed to fairly high-traffic mailing lists while most of my relatives were saying, "What's the point to this email thing?" or complaining that it sounded complicated. I wound up conducting much of my social life -- and organizing nearly all of it -- online. I maintained a couple of local mailing lists. I list email as the most reliable way to reach me. When I was an AT&T cell-phone customer, I had my mail (after filtering) forwarded to my phone. I used to flip between a Usenet window, an IRC window, a mail window, a private-chat window, and whatever I was actually trying to get done, and keep up with all of those simultaneously. The point of all this is that even though my ability to cope with the firehose of text information has dimished since the fibromyalgia clobbered me, I'm one of the people who is used to dealing with email, managing lots of email, and dealing with sorting out the different sources of it. Nowadays I make the job easier by having Procmail sort messages for me.

When I start feeling overwhelmed by my inbox and not up to dealing with wading through it; when I start losing messages in the noise (most recently an order for a copy of Spinning Reels via PayPal that I didn't notice for a week); when this happens despite my having sorted each mailing list to a separate folder where I can ignore it when I get busy, spam has demolished the usefulness of email.

I remember when spamming started, and some people said, "Just hit the delete key -- how big a problem can it be?" while others spoke of the "tragedy of the commons" and predicted that spam could eventually make Usenet and email unusable. How many newsgroups have choked and died on spam? How many people have given up on email entirely? (Seriously, I know some who have -- they no longer even check their email, having given up on being able to find the real messages in it about a year and a half ago.) How many of us who still rely on email find it a chore to manage?

This was predicted. And also bloody pointless. But seemingly inevitable, despite the stupidity of it.

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posted by [identity profile] krikket.livejournal.com at 03:20am on 2003-05-17
Check out MessageFire http://www.messagefire.com

They're running at about a 99.3% accuracy rating in detecting spam. This shit "just works".

If you're interested in helping beta-test, email Eli (eli (at) promanage-inc.com) and mentioned that I said you should try it out...
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 04:08am on 2003-05-17
Sounds good, but I'm not using POP. I like their approach though. My plan is to get around to installing and configuring CRM114 (http://crm114.sourceforge.net/) when I have the attention span for it.

I'm tempted to set up a POP account somewhere just to experiement with MessageFire though.
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posted by [personal profile] ceo at 04:41am on 2003-05-17
I solved 95% of my spam problem when I changed my email address a year and a bit ago. Because I run my own mail server, I was able to set up a "spam alias" for things like Usenet and the various online places that want your email address. I used to set up a new alias for each one, with appropriate suffixes (ceo_amazon@ and suchlike), but that's too much work. Needless to say, it's procmail'ed into a folder entitled "spam".

The other part was that I did not set up a forward from my old email address; I checked it occasionally and told everyone who sent me mail there to stop using it. (Eventually, it died when shore.net's customer service got so execrable that they couldn't even process a change of billing address despite repeated attempts, so I stopped getting bills when the forwarding order expired, but that's a rant for another day.)

The result is that I get maybe one or two spams a week in my primary mailbox. Most of the spam goes to the spam alias and I never see it except when I skim it for legit mail once a week or so.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:01pm on 2003-05-19
I hate changing my address -- I found it rather traumatic to have to do so when Digex punted its shell users. But ifwhen I get my own domain, that'll probably be the time to put that approach into play.
 
posted by [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com at 11:59am on 2003-05-17
Are you using pine to read mail? Pine has some filtering options that I use for a crude form of spam-catching as well (I've never had the time to learn procmail). I also use it to divert mailing-list mails to different folders. Setup-Rules-Filters, from that point on it's intuitive.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 07:54pm on 2003-05-19
I'm using Mailx (/usr/bin/mail, /usr/bin/mailx, or /usr/bin/Mail on most UNIX systems, /bin/mail under Linux, not as primitive as /bin/mail in older UNIX (and probably still there in current ones), but the same user interface). When I specifically need to pack/unpack a MIME attachment, or for reading a mailing list with lots of followups in threaded mode, I switch to Mutt.

(The Pine user interface bothers me. So does the Mutt interface, but not as badly. If I could have some of the modern MUA features grafted into Mailx, I'd be happy. It's a comfortable UI for me.)

Most of what I do in Procmail is pretty basic. I'm sure I could improve the spam-catching effectiveness of my current .procmailrc, but I also think that I'm not going to make that really effective unless I keep adding/tweaking rules every week to reflect new trends in spammage. That's why I mean to install CRM114 (http://crm114.sourceforge.net/) sooner or later. I figure I'll keep using Procmail to sort mailing lists into their own folders, 'cause that's already set up.

One thing about doing it at the MDA level instead of the MUA level is that I can switch mail readers willy-nilly without having to worry about which clients I've set up what rules for.

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