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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:25am on 2003-06-29

Chris Johnson wrote:

Napster, as it existed, was the ultimate Internet music store -- and it is crucial to understand the change in meaning behind those three simple words. Traditional music stores offered a selection of music for sale. Modern retail music is the result of a bitter fight to be included in a much narrower selection -- from top 40 to rack jobbers, every step of the way the trend has been to reduce inventory levels, to stock fewer selections and make it up on volume. This impoverishes choice, but choice does not necessarily make money for the RIAA -- sales does. Compared to that, only part of Napster's appeal was current hits for free. The rest of Napster's appeal was in offering something no retail store could ever offer -- very nearly the history of recorded music, searchable and downloadable. This is only a slight exaggeration -- compared to modern retail outlets, Napster's peak was almost like having the history of recorded music at your fingertips. There was much overlap, but if only one person with a certain obscure item was logged on, you had it. The effect was of a store inventory hundreds, thousands of times greater than any physical store.

That this was compelling, that this produced a peer-to-peer craze that even now refuses to die, says more about the Napster users than the simple fact that they liked downloading inferior dubs of music for free. In earlier years, Napster may have garnered much less attention- people could have been disgusted at the many poor or incomplete files, people could have ignored the whole thing knowing that they could buy the real CDs at a real store.

But in the modern world, the consumer cannot do that: the pressures of the music business have led to a wild constriction of consumer choice in mainstream retail outlets, on mainstream radio- in every respect. The degree of control is so extreme that it's no longer possible to buy stuff unless it is mainstream, and record label execs forthwith proceed to study the market and try their level best to produce composite, synthetic musicians and bands that can appeal to the largest or most profitable sections of the market.

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posted by [identity profile] butterfluff.livejournal.com at 02:39am on 2003-06-29
"The degree of control is so extreme that it's no longer possible to buy stuff unless it is mainstream..."

There are specialty outlets.
And with the advent of "burn your own" cds, very small groups can produce saleable recordings.

Off Centaur (now defunct) made its first cassettes three at a time, with a real time dubbing deck.

Prometheus Music produces science fiction folk songs (as did Off Centaur). You don't get much less mainstream than that.

 
posted by [identity profile] anniemal.livejournal.com at 07:30am on 2003-06-29
Hi, Butterfluff,
If science fiction music is obscure what do you call a collection of ancient tapes from folkie coffeehouses containing songs one's never heard anywhwere else? There are some alternative outlets, but I haven't found enough of them. It's good to know that they exist. Mostly I end up buying direct from the musicians. That way I know where the money goes.
 
posted by [identity profile] butterfluff.livejournal.com at 06:20pm on 2003-06-29
That's obscure cuts of a known genre. 99% of the people who have heard of folk have never even heard of filk.

Both best hunted where the live art is being practiced -- folk fesitvals, science fiction conventions...

Oh! Ramblin' Conrad's, in the Norfolk, Virginia area, a folk music store that actually carried some filk. I bought a harp kit there, ages ago. They don't seem to have a web page I can find, sorry.
 
posted by [identity profile] otherdeb.livejournal.com at 08:45am on 2003-06-29
And I really felt Napster's lack this morning when I tried to find the versions of "Icarus" (by either Winter Consort or Oregon)and "Sail" (by Oregon) to play for my sweetie([livejournal.com profile] odiesdee. I finally had to dig up the vinyl, and clean off the stereo to play them for him. (Being young and mundane, he had never heard either of these pieces).

What brought up looking for them to play to him was that I was reading George Martin's All You Need is Ears, and Martin mentioned that he had been the producer for the Winter Consort version. Having known Oregon from my WBAI-FM days, and this piece being one of the most gorgeous pieces of music I have heard in my 50 years on this planet, I immediately ralized that I needed to share it with [livejournal.com profile] odiesdee. Not wanting to spend an hour looking for it, I went to Gnucleus, which had nothing under Oregon, Paul Winter, Winter Consort, or Paul Winter Consort.

I actually had to dig out the vinyl, and clean all the stuff off the turntable case to play him both "Sail" and "Icarus" (and why is it reasonable to clean all one's stuff off the stereo to play two cuts, but not to play only one?) He just stood there, swaying to some of the most gorgeous oboe work in jazz, and is now listening to it for about the tenth time.

Well worth the trouble, but I do believe if Napster was still around, I would have had both pieces with no problem, and a lot less loss of time (of course, when I explained to the friends I am meeting *why* I'm running late, it was not a problem, because they would do the same thing).
 
posted by [identity profile] malada.livejournal.com at 11:56am on 2003-06-29
Of course, you still had the old vinyl around.

What if it *wasn't* around?

I don't like stealing music but it would be nice to have big fat servers with issues of all that old, cool music.

Music I like I pay for... but I haven't heard much recently.

-m
 
posted by [identity profile] otherdeb.livejournal.com at 06:58pm on 2003-06-29
You raise a good question.

Fortunately, while wandering, I found that I can get both pieces on CD, but what about all the wonderful stuff that is vanishing daily?

Wouldn't it be cool if we could access all the old stuff like that?

However, even having the technology doesn;t make things happen.

One of my dearest friends is a telephone reference librarian for the central branch of a major public library. She informs me that when they computerized the card catalogue, they did not enter anywhere near all the books they had in the catalogue, and they threw out all the cards and the beautiful catalogue drawers that used to be in the library's main hall, so that they could put in a coffee bar. So, there is no real definitive catalogue any more of what the library system has. Sigh.
 
posted by [identity profile] ysabel.livejournal.com at 06:47am on 2003-06-30
I'm actually collecting old vinyl against the day I can buy a laser record scanner and turn the music on them into mp3s and make them available under a non-profit organization.

At the moment, it's mostly stuff from the early half of the 1900's.
 
posted by [identity profile] malada.livejournal.com at 08:03am on 2003-06-30
That's good. I've got this 10 volume set of music books titled 'The World's Best Music' dated 1908. Someday I hope to find _inexpensive_ scanning software so I can change the sheet music to MIDI format and post them on a website.

-m
 
posted by [identity profile] otherdeb.livejournal.com at 09:59am on 2003-06-30
Neat! Please keep me up todate on how your project goes. I have a lot of classical music that Marc and I found
 
posted by [identity profile] otherdeb.livejournal.com at 10:06am on 2003-06-30
Grr...I hate when it posts before I finish typing....

I have a lot of classical music that Marc Glasser and I found abandoned on a street in Greenwich Village one evening. We couldn't believe our stroke of luck, and shoved records into every thing we had with us capcable of holding them. We had to take a taxi to get them all to our homes, but it was well worth it. We figure that between us, we got a couple of hundred dollars worth of good music for the cost af the cab ride (about $20, split between us). Also, if you are looking, I have a lot of stuff from the late 60's through about the mid 80's.

When you have the technology, I would be willing to arrange loans of vinyl for copying.

 
posted by [identity profile] otherdeb.livejournal.com at 10:08am on 2003-06-30
Oh, and I forgot -- I have some of my mom's old 78's and a lot of 45's.
 
posted by [identity profile] speaker2animals.livejournal.com at 02:05pm on 2003-06-29
As others have pointed out, the universal selection of both commercial and home-made music was Napster's true appeal, not that all the music was free to download. Sadly, the record companies just haven't grokked this yet.

Big record labels want more than just the ability to sell mediocre, overpriced collections of music... they want control. Regulating music with a physical CD gives the record companies control over distribution, pricing, content, everything.

Systems like Napster put the control back in the hands of the people. It's that sense of control, convenience and availability that gives the P2P networks their appeal. Now if Apple Computer's iMusic service offered every possible song or album I could think of, then I would gladly pay 99 cents per download.

... but this isn't really possible because only a network of individuals, not a centralized authority could possibly provide that much eclectic content.

Instead of offering freedom of choice, however, the record companies manipulate their customers into buying the content of *their* choice... mainstream junk that I don't care about. That's another reason why the commercial download services, including iMusic, can't compete with P2P networks... the offerings are too mainstream and governed by the marketing dictates of corporations.

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