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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 03:04pm on 2003-11-01

Family stuff might get interesting.

The guys who did my roof a couple of weeks ago are back again. This time they're here to paint the two rooms on the third floor. (First they have to patch a lot of cracks.) I had to move a bunch of stuff out of the way, and my mother had asked whether I needed my brother's help, and I said yes, but by the time they got here, most of the stuff was moved and my arms hurt pretty badly and I was scraping four layers (I'd thought it was three, but I discovered a fourth) off the one wall that still had any wallpaper on it, and I just needed help with a couple of really heavy things, but one of the guys wanted my mom to see the inside of the house (which she owns) in any case so she'd know just what she is dealing with (she's never seen the inside of this house before, no) so it was probably a good thing she came even though she was so preoccupied with the mess that I don't think she absorbed many of the finer architectural details or what anyone was trying to tell her about the condition and the required work. Oh, and I didn't get enough sleep and I haven't had breakfast, so I may wind up writing some run-on sentences.

But that's not the issue, that's just why she came here. The issue is that today was the first time my mother has ever seen me in "glenn-clothes". The first time she's seen me in a skirt (kilts and tunics don't count).

I wasn't going to wear my only pair of trousers -- my nice black dress pants -- for scraping wallpaper, and besides, this is "my turf", not a family gathering, a funeral, a wedding, or her house. (When I came out to my parents as transgendered, my mother said (on the phone), "If you have any respect for your mother, you won't wear a skirt around me." I thought a moment and said, "I won't wear a skirt at your house." She heard the change and didn't acknowledge it verbally, but I could hear the change in her breathing: she heard, didn't like it, but knew better than to make an issue of it then. This was a decade ago, long after I'd been out to nearly everyone else who knes me.) So I wasn't sure how she'd react today. I'm also not sure how much that has had to do with her never seeing the places I've lived ... that trend did start before I came out to her, but I still wonder about it. She's only ever been inside one other home, and that was because she had to pick me up to drive me to a family holiday thing.

Now ideally I'd want to have looked a lot nicer for the first time Mom saw me dressed as myself, but again, this was scraping and painting and carrying stuff clothes, not dress up for Mom clothes: a mid-calf faded denim skirt and a loose black t-shirt. She rang the doorbell, I went and unlocked the door to let her in, and she nodded at the peeling textured wallpaper in the entryway and said, "What is this junk?", nodded at the things leaning in corners near the door, "What is this junk?", and nodded at my skirt, "And what is this junk?" No more comment was made (about the skirt anyhow, but she went on and on about my having too much stuff and how messy the house is), nor dirty looks, nor other overt signals, but she didn't face me much of the time and she was in a big hurry to leave again (Mark didn't get a chance to help at all, but I did get to point out a few details about the house and they got introduced to Perrine -- my brother exclaimed, "What a friendly cat!", and my mother didn't notice the presence of a cat until Perrine actually walked in front of her).

She's upset. I know her reactions and her body language and when she's trying not to say anything. She's upset. She just might be too clueful to make an issue of it later, but I can't tell yet. Either way, I'm glad there was no "scene" today. I might hear about this from Mark later ("You really upset Mom you know, and you shouldn't have done that" -- he gets protective of her in that regard) if she makes it obvious to him. Or she might explode at me later (as much as what comes out of her British-influenced upbringing can be called an "explosion") when we're really arguing about something else (or when I think we're arguing about something else), or maybe she'll recognize this as a bad fight to pick and let it lie, or maybe, just maybe, she'll decide that the world did not end when she first saw me in a skirt and that she doesn't have to stay upset about it after all.

I don't think that last one is very likely, but I can hope. The depth to which she buried her reaction today is either a very good sign or a very bad one, and with the information I have so far, it could go either way. Here's hoping.

The step beyond that -- deciding that it just doesn't matter what I wear -- I can't imagine from her. So I'll probably continue to feel as though I'm putting on this odd boy-disguise when I go to visit her (which is part of the reason I see her so seldom even when I have a working car -- it's so uncomfortable to feel that way to visit my own mother. But I can hope that she'll recognize that my wearing a skirt in front of her today was not some big slap in her face, but an ought-to-have-been-harmless dressing as myself and apropriate to the day in my own home. Because I don't want to slap her in the face with my choice of clothing, as much as I wish she would accept me (not just a particular preferred image of me) the rest of the time as well. I just don't want to feel like I have to put on the disguise in my own house. And I don't want to have to worry about her reaction, but of course I do worry.

But hey, looking for the good omens as much as possible: it's the start of a new era -- the first time Mom has seen me dressed as myself -- at the Celtic new-year.

Now to try to get the wallpaper-dust out of my nose and throat, and decide whether to make this my first ever friends-only entry or leave it where my mother, brothers, and sister might trip over it. (Ah, but if I make it friends-only, then my cousins won't be able to see it either, and I don't think Mom reads my journal ... )

EDIT: For anyone coming in late, I wrote a song about my parents' reaction to my coming out.

Mood:: aprehensive
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posted by [identity profile] juuro.livejournal.com at 12:33pm on 2003-11-01

I can slightly imagine the strain the encounter must have been. Here's wishing it goes on well.

I did talk on a couple of occasions about my homosexuality to my father. My mother and I Do Not Talk about Things Like That. On the surface we get along quite whitout problems; she even at times uses me as a fashion judge. But there's a clear undercurrent of things being unsaid.

Of course you worry about her reaction. It'd be unhuman for you not to. From what you are telling us, I'd say you are doing good work on both being yourself and avoiding unnecessary distress on your mother. Not knowing either of you I cannot suggest anything, either. *support-hug*, dear soul.

And on quite another note,

I was scraping four layers [...] off the one wall that still had any wallpaper on it.

I am puttering on a 150-year-old house that has seen several rounds of remodelling. One of my bitter sorrows is that only small fragments of old wallpapers remain. It appears that in the big remodelling of 1930's, almost all wallpaper was torn down; only some pathces behind woodwork remain.

The antiquarian in me aches to hear wallpaper being taken down. Sometimes it is necessary, but whenever I have the opportunity, I leave the old paper in place. I may clear off any tears and damages, perhaps tear down some sections so that the different strata are exposed, and then put up an intermediate layer before the new wallpaper or paint job.

But that's just me in an old house. Still, I'd like to see the principles of conservation applied in modern buildings, as well; one day they will be the old, antiquariating ones.

 
posted by [identity profile] tormenta.livejournal.com at 07:46pm on 2003-11-01
I grew up in a house full of layered wallpaper, often alternated with painted layers. The living room had that faux wood panel pressed carboard on the walls. We lived with each new layer exposed for a few months in the beginning, and then got rid of it. By a couple years in, everything from the drywall up was ours; and often we'd done the drywalling, too.

The house was built in the 60s. That awful first era, when suburban track family housing with a white picket fence and a caddy out front became the american dream?

It had never even occured to me to preserve what are usually (what I have been trained to see as) the half-assed attempts to cover the walls applied by unskilled workers. Wood detailing, things that are valuable now (and possibly, I don't know, very OLD wallpaper) I can understand preserving... but ... isn't part of the point of wall paper that it's a covering, to protect and beautify the walls for a time?

Thank you for sharing, though, it is an interesting viewpoint. In the SCA, I learned how hard it is to figure out the detailing of textiles and other "disposable" items of the past. I honestly hadn't thought of applying preservation principles to making homes.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 02:44am on 2003-11-02
I've got comments to write about the house in general, old wallpaper, and the decision to paint, but my started getting long enough that I decided to put it off until I'm more awake and make it its own entry

Patches of three layers of wallpaper have been photographed, and I'm going to try to scan a scraped-off piece of the other one.

My house was built in the 60s too. The 1860s. (At 136, it's not quite as old as [livejournal.com profile] juuro's though.) It's actually a pretty neat house; it just needs lots and lots of work (and money) to bring out the glory lurking in it.
 
posted by [identity profile] cyan-blue.livejournal.com at 12:38pm on 2003-11-01
how could they keep lovin' someone
Who they don't know?


I like that line, a lot.

I am glad you chose to be yourself in your home. And I wish that your mother could be thankful that you love her enough to let her know you, even despite her thorns.
 
posted by [identity profile] aliza250.livejournal.com at 07:00am on 2003-11-02
how could they keep lovin' someone/Who they don't know?

Because blood is thicker than water... and thicker than denim, too.
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posted by [identity profile] hobbitblue.livejournal.com at 12:39pm on 2003-11-01
Its all very complicated, and I wish for your sake your mum was handling it better (especially after all this time), but the main thing that struck me is you were wearing your choice of clothing in your *own* house, and quite frankly she really doesn't have much say in such a thing..
 
posted by [identity profile] slfisher.livejournal.com at 12:57pm on 2003-11-01
yep. it's your house, dude. wear what you want.
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posted by [personal profile] redbird at 01:06pm on 2003-11-01
My sympathy.

It sounds as though you've been pretty good about respecting her (dis)comfort levels; I hope she can respect yours.
 
posted by [identity profile] tikvah.livejournal.com at 01:39pm on 2003-11-01
When my housemate (M2F) had her parents visit us for the first time shortly after we moved into the house, and she dressed as her true self and made herself up as her true self, her folks were obviously painfully uncomfortable, even though they said nothing (probably because I was there).

The tension was thick and awkward, and I think my housemate finally started breathing again once her folks left.

I could feel the pain and fear and sadness in the air. My housemate's parents have not been to the house for a visit since.

My heart goes out to you. It's a shame that your mother can't wrap her brain around who you really are.
 
posted by [identity profile] miklinar.livejournal.com at 02:29pm on 2003-11-01
Come mothers and fathers throughout the land
And don't criticize what you don't understand
Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command
Your old road is rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand
For the times they are a-changin'.
-- Bob Dylan
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posted by [personal profile] cellio at 05:49pm on 2003-11-01
{hugs} I'm sorry she's not being better about this. But it's your house; you should dress your way. You're making enough of a concession to her by dressing in boy-clothes in her house and at family gatherings; if she were more mature you wouldn't have to do that. Time for her to give a little.
 
posted by [identity profile] holzman.livejournal.com at 07:45pm on 2003-11-01
I assume you're familiar with "Straightening Up The House" by Romonavsky and Phillips.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 02:47am on 2003-11-02
Oh yeah ... now the question is: will it be faster to clear a path to the turntable so I an play the LP, or to figure out which box my R&P songbook is in and try it on the guitar?

But all I did in that vein was to make sure no toys were really prominent.
 
posted by [identity profile] scarlettj9.livejournal.com at 08:43pm on 2003-11-01
Parents not understanding is a universal thing. We all go thru it at some point. You however had put up with enough. Dress as you please in your own home. Period. You have shown your mom that you do care about her feelings by dressing to please her in her home. Now she needs to see that this is who you are, and it is not just a "fad" or whatever. Perhaps in time she will "get it". I truly hope so. Stay strong and much hugs sent your way.

 
posted by [identity profile] thespian.livejournal.com at 09:18pm on 2003-11-01
mind you, as an actual girl who nobody looks at twice if I wear a skirt (aside from my mother, ironically, who thinks because of my weight I look better in pants), I would never wear a skirt while stripping wallpaper or painting. ;-) You're far more dedicated to skirt wear than *any* woman I know...even the girls who wear skirts to the exclusion of anything else usually have a pair of jeans around for when they need to climb under the shed or up a ladder. ;-)

Perhaps you can just assume that she was concerned you were doing heavy house work in girls' clothes even girls don't usually wear for the purpose. I know my mother would have responded to me doing house repair in a skirt by nagging me to put on some jeans (and she's not fond of my appearance in jeans, either, but nothing seems to convince the woman there isn't some magic slimming clothing out there that will make me *look* 8 sizes smaller).
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 02:57am on 2003-11-02
Well, I didn't need to get up on a ladder. (The ceilings on the third floor are only a couple of inches more than eight feet, and we attached the scraper to the pole from my push broom.) And the way this skirt hangs, I'd have to be a ways up for it to matter.

This is, in fact, my "doing stuff I want denim for" skirt. It's not the "nice denim"; it's "go ahead and get messy" denim. And it's not like it gets in the way of carrying stuff. So I guess I just saw it as being functionally equivalent to jeans for this sort of thing. It really didn't occur to me as an odd/extreme choice. Hmm.

But you're right that I'm more attached to skirts than most women (though I've met a couple of exceptions). I'll grant that. Still, I know some women who avoid wearing skirts to a greater extent than I avoid wearing pants, which is a kind of related phenomenon...
 
posted by [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com at 09:54pm on 2003-11-01
Go, you!

You made a serious concession to your mom -- "I won't wear a skirt at your house" . . . [t]his was a decade ago. Having given your word, you have kept it for a significant time. (Enough to demonstrate that you remembered and meant what you said.)

That's called integrity, and you have it. You know that you're not trying to hurt your mom, or the rest of your family. Sooner or later, if they don't totally close their hearts and eyes, they will have to acknowledge these things.

More importantly: it's your life you are living. Not your mom's, not your brother's, but your own. Either your mom will realize this at some point, or else disavow you. The best way for you to assist her to this realization is to keep living the way you have been, balancing stubborn unwillingness to yield yourself with doses of compassion.

That balance is not easy, and is often painful. You've found it so far, the way you describe things. Keep on keeping on -- we're behind and with you all the way!

 
posted by [identity profile] aliza250.livejournal.com at 07:09am on 2003-11-02
Actually, it's better, in a way, that she saw you in your grungiest skirt. Maybe this will help her understand that you're not "dressing up in women's clothing" but that you're just doing what comes naturally.

*laugh* This reminds me of the first time I officially met my mother-in-law - I was filthy, as was my partner. We'd spent three hours picking cherries, and stopped off at her house to share the booty. I did not have to worry about being underdressed...
 
posted by [identity profile] flyingwolf.livejournal.com at 10:33pm on 2003-11-04
blink

did I miss something?
 
posted by [identity profile] aliza250.livejournal.com at 10:42pm on 2003-11-04
I said: mother-in-law [...] partner

It's a nice simple term that's not completely accurate.

We're not "legally married" - but Canadian law does recognize common-law spouses, and it only takes one year of cohabitation with obvious long-term intentions for that status to kick in.
 
posted by [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com at 11:39am on 2003-11-02
As another commenter remarked, this is where respect should get mutual.

*hugs* Best of luck in the rest of this progression.
 
posted by [identity profile] aliza250.livejournal.com at 12:38pm on 2003-11-02
Another thought: did your mother even know that you still wear 'girl-clothes', that the skirt thing wasn't just a phase that she might have expected you to outgrow?
 
posted by [identity profile] badgerthorazine.livejournal.com at 05:19pm on 2003-11-02
*big snuggles* Good for you, all that work musta' been painful! I'm glad you were in your comfiest grungies, though...that your mother didn't say much might be on some level her way of letting you know that she didn't like what you were wearing, but she knew better than to bitch about your clothing in your house, maybe?

*hugs*
 
posted by [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com at 08:59am on 2003-11-03
Wow, yes, I can understand that strain. Not a whole lot of words to offer, though... Much hoping that thing get less strained!
 
posted by [identity profile] flyingwolf.livejournal.com at 10:29pm on 2003-11-04
Saw this today and thought of you. If you've seen it... sorry for the repeat

http://www.metmuseum.org/special/se_event.asp?OccurrenceId=%7B
 
posted by [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com at 08:55am on 2003-11-06
*hugs* Sounds difficult, but also sounds like a good start
 
posted by [identity profile] anniemal.livejournal.com at 06:15pm on 2003-11-09
I missed this bit of your life completely, and am so sorry. You didn't say anything attention-getting, and I was busy with my spouse's cold, and my stomach gripe.

Wear what pleases you.

I don't like dresses for much but dancing, but find robes and caftans comfortable. Until I have to carry something up stairs. I like my boy clothes.

I have a new week to declare, maybe. We defended marriage, then porn: How about "Vagueness of Gender and Its Definition" Week. I'm really tired of trying to figure even my own out. We are all members of the genus and species Homo sapiens, no? Let's attempt cooperation in this business and declare ourselves people. Yeah there's gonna be some confusion about genetic and morphological and sartorial and hormonal differences, but is that worth making a mess over?

I haven't figured out the skin colour thing, much less the penis/vagina thing. The sartorial bit, oh, hell. Neither one of us is good at it. I do like your denim skirt, though. Wish I fit into mine.

One of these days we'll go shopping and have buttered scones for tea. I'll join you in wearing boyclothes. Then I'll get some fake whiskers and spirit gum and you can take me home to meet your mom. I might be able to bring the Best Beloved in a skirt and James in a plaid or lurex tie. We could maybe get Perrine into a tutu. The animals would be dressed properly. Yes, I'm being silly or facetious or sarcastic about something serious. It's a reflexive reaction to something I can't do anything about that affects someone I care about. Imagine the craziest, stupidest, thing you could do. Then grin wryly.

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