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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 02:43pm on 2003-12-16

Finger looks really ugly but is troubling me surprisingly little. I guess I should use Crazy Glue on cuts more often. Still tender, of course, and I'm worried about catching the edge of the glue-patch on anything. *shrug* It'll be interesting to see how this changes the behaviour of the edges of the wound over the course of the healing process, compared to just using a bandage.

More and more, I'm finding myself confronted with problems or tasks which would be easier if I could set up an Internet-accessible shared filesystem. I want small groups of people to have write/edit access to files in a common location. And I'm not giving out the password to either of my remotely hosted shell accounts (at my ISP and a friend's system). If I had a static IP address (I'm on dialup ... but maybe I can get away with one of those "dynamic DNS" services) and could count on everyone I need to give access to to have VPN software compatible with whatever I can set up for free under Linux, that would do the trick. Failing that, I wonder whether there's a free or extremely cheap, web-based SCCS/RCS/VCS/whateveryoucallit check-out/check-in system that isn't a headache and a half to use for people who don't like to do anything in a web browser except reading. (The VPN aproach appeals to me more. Just Samba/NFS/Netatalk the directory over the virtual network and use them as conveniently as (though more slowly than) anything on one's own machine. And everyone gets to use their familiar tools, which isn't the case if I just tell people how to look up the current IP address of my gateway and give them Linux logins there.)

I've got three different situations at the moment where such a thing would come in handy.

I'm still waaaaay behind on my friends page. Trying to get too much else done. Hope I don't get so far behind that the "20 previous entries" button stops working. I forget how far back one can skip.

A question for Windows-based musical types: if you use ABC, which Windows ABC software do you prefer, and why? (My approach to editing music so far has been to use NetTerm (telnet) under Windows or Nifty Telnet under MacOS; vi, abc2ps, ps2pdf, and sometimes gv and abc2midi under Linux; and finally ghostscript under Linux, Acrobat under Windows or MacOS and occasionally, uh, some program that plays MIDI files under Windows (I'm sitting at the Mac right now and don't feel like running to the other room to look up the name). This is how I managed to have typeset copies of a tune at Pennsic the day after I composed it, though that also required a little use of ftp. But if, as has been suggeted, I assemble a CD of ABC software and tunes, I'm trying to find out which Windows programs would be most useful without having to download, install, and try all of them myself.) Oh, and same question for Mac users.

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posted by [identity profile] butterfluff.livejournal.com at 01:47pm on 2003-12-16
Set up a yahoo account. Give trusted folks the name and password. Give slightly less trusted folks the name, and put their Yahoo IDs on the "may read" list.

Cautionary -- there is an email included, and anyone with the password can send out using it.

If someone is not on the 'most trusted' list, he/she _does_ need a yahoo ID to access the files.

But it's free!

 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 02:13pm on 2003-12-16
Hmm. This'd be a "download the file via browser, edit the local copy, get around to uploading the edited file via browser again" type of workflow, right?

On the one hand: ick. On the other hand, free solution. Hmm. I'll have to look closer at how Yahoo is set up for this, including how much space an account gets.

(If the download/upload is an automated part of a revision-control-system checkout/checking operation, it's a little less icky to me but still a nuisance unless changes occur frequently enough to need an RCS. "Download a fresh copy in case the last copy I downloaded is stale" annoys me, as does switching back and forth between browser and other tools. But maybe the other folks involved aren't as easily annoyed as I am ...)
 
posted by [identity profile] butterfluff.livejournal.com at 02:22pm on 2003-12-16
You can edit text and html in place, no downloading.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 04:03pm on 2003-12-16
Yowza, Yahoo is slow (at least on dialup). Where am I supposed to be looking for file storage? "Briefcase"? 'Cause I don't see how to edit a file in place. I'll poke at it some more after rehearsal.
 
posted by [identity profile] butterfluff.livejournal.com at 05:50pm on 2003-12-16
You get a geocities site with your ID. There, you can edit right in place. Briefcase is more for 'here is is' files, like pics and mp3s.

Slow? Depends on when, I guess. I haven't run into a lot of fast sites.

I thought you could edit files in briefcase. Let me look and report back.
 
posted by [identity profile] butterfluff.livejournal.com at 06:48pm on 2003-12-16
Okay. Geocities is where you put things you want to casually edit. Briefcase is where you put things you want to upload and download.

You get 30 mb of briefcase, 15 mb of geocities. Not too shabby. (I think half the briefcase might be dedicated to pics. But, for free, take.)
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:21am on 2003-12-17
Hmm. I'm missing something then, 'cause I didn't see a button to go to (or create) a GeoCities account from my Yahoo login screen, other than links to non-free Geocities options (starting at something like $4/month, which, admittedly, isn't much, but it's not "included"). There's enough stuff all over that screen though, that I might just be overlooking it.
 
posted by [identity profile] butterfluff.livejournal.com at 01:12pm on 2003-12-19
Once you are logged into yahoo.

Put this in the address:
http://www.geocities.com

That's it.
 
posted by [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com at 07:23pm on 2003-12-16
I'm pretty sure there are some free CVS version control sites, not sure if they have web interfaces. You could ask on comp.software.config-mgmt.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:23am on 2003-12-17
I Googled for things like that last night, and what I found out is mostly that my impression of the software environment out there is a few years out of date. Got a pile of pages I'm sifting through. Thanks for the tip.
 
posted by [identity profile] puzzledance.livejournal.com at 10:11pm on 2003-12-16
I want small groups of people to have write/edit access to files in a common location.

Not sure what you are trying to do, but would it be feasible to set up a Wiki?
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:28am on 2003-12-17
Hmm. I'll have to look closer at that. I'd bumpted into the concept but hadn't gotten around to learning much of the nitty gritty of them. The files I'll be wanting multiple edit access to include spreadsheets, PDFs, and images, as well as text/hypertext. I had the impression Wikis were pretty much text based, but I'll go read up on 'em now.
 
posted by [identity profile] puzzledance.livejournal.com at 11:36am on 2003-12-17
You're right, Wiki is pretty much text based. If you want to be able to edit other types of documents, then the suggested web CVS solution might be a good option.

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