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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 01:10pm on 2003-12-30

My uncle's estate included a Honda. Whoever had first-refusal rights on it refused, and my mother bought it from the estate for me, since I really need a properly working car. My to-do list this week mostly involves dealing with getting the Honda through Maryland inspection, registration, etc., and part of that is to finally get rid of the Toyota I've been using for within-Baltimore-only errands because it's no longer highway-worthy. (I'll need to transfer tags and insurance 'cause I can't afford to have both cars at once and won't need the Camry anyhow once the Honda is legal.)

I'd been told I could probably get about a hundred dollars for the Toyota, so I've been talking to used car lots, garages, and such, hoping that somebody will see it either as a restoration project or as a collection of useful parts. No dice. It seems there's a glut of Camrys, all prettier than mine. One place I went, somebody thought they might take it off my hands for fifty dollars, but when the person with authority to actually make that decision showed up, he said no, they had three more of the same year with perfect bodies if they needed parts. At another place they just shook their head mournfully. I can remember when any car that still ran was worth something just for existing, but apparently even a junkyard will only give me $35 for this, and I'll have to borrow tools from somebody to remove the gas tank myself. I did find one garage that's willing to take the car as a donation, planning to restore it and re-sell it, but they won't pay me for it. (So at least it does have value to somebody even if it doesn't have any monetary value that I can collect.)

So my options are to find someone who wants a pile of 1988 Toyota Camry parts, find someone to whom a rolling DIY project is worth more than $35, or find someone who can lend me the tools to remove the gas tank and spend a bunch of time scrapping it (and hoping I don't hurt myself in the process). Or find a way to take it off the road and make it legally-not-a-car in the eyes of the Motor Vehicle Administration so I can de-register and de-insure it, borrow my brother's welding rig, teach myself to weld, and turn it into raw materials for sculpture, but that would also require finding a legal place to store it in the meantime.

I'm going to give the first two options one last try. Does anyone want a 1988 Camry sedan with a decent motor and transmission, cruise control, and three working power windows, that needs a lot of body work, brakes, a radiator, and some front-end suspension work? (Someone said that based on my description of how it feels to drive, it's probably got a broken A-frame. It feels funny but appears safe up to 30MPH if you're careful; above that it feels as though the right front wheel is trying to rip itself off the car. Turn hard to the left or right getting into a parking space, and it feels like the wheel sort of flops.) The interior isn't bad. The tape deck doesn't work but it pulls in AM and FM radio fine. I think there's at least one good tire on it, but I'd have to go and check before I promise that. Best case, somebody pays me enough to cover the inspection on the Honda. Worst case, I give it away, if not to a friend, then to the garage I spoke to earlier or a vocational school.

[EDIT 13:20 -- I also posted this message to a mailing list, and got back the following suggestion (from someone apparently already aware that I don't earn enough for the tax deduction to do me any good directly): "It probably has value as a tax deductible donation for someone else. Do you have a friend who will give you $100 for it in order to donate it to a charity for a tax deduction? The charity may give them more of a deduction than the cash value." Anyone here need the charitable deduction?]

Looking at what passes for really low budget used car lots in the poor section of Baltimore, I can see that my old way of thinking of cheap cars is out of date. But I find it really hard to scrap a car with a working motor, transmission, and steering, and a non-ratty interior. It's like I can hear the car calling out, "But I'm not dead yet!" a la Monty Python. Similarly I have trouble with the idea of throwing away a working stereo just because it's too old to sell and lacks one modern feature that its replacement has -- it still functions, so the last bit of value hasn't been squeezed out of it yet. I understand "not cost effective to repair/restore", but somewhere along the way I've picked up a strong, "It's wasteful to throw away something that still has use" meme.

Not that I expect any, but hey, any takers among my readers in or near Baltimore, MD? Anybody want a major DIY auto-restoration project? Is it worth even trying to list this car on eBay?

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posted by [identity profile] faireraven.livejournal.com at 10:13am on 2003-12-30
www.kbb.com is the webpage for the kelly blue book values of cars... Put the year, make, and model of your car into the system, and then describe what kind of condition it's in. That'll give you a good idea of what you can charge.
 
posted by [identity profile] faireraven.livejournal.com at 10:21am on 2003-12-30
By the way... If you can afford to wait for the tax deduction, why not donate the car to a worthy cause? I donated my car to the National Multiple Sclerosis Society a few years ago, and got FAR more for it than the dealer offered me (dealer offered me $200 for my car. The KBB was $1200. However, the tax deduction is the fair market value of the car when in perfect running order (minus some for repairs). in the case of my former car, the tax deduction was actually around $3800. Meant that after all the deductions, I got back approximately $1300. Just had to wait for the tax returns).

If you're going to donate, call up your donation of choice either today or tomorrow, and it goes on this year's tax returns!!! Even if they don't pick it up in the next two days, they have it on record that you've donated it as of 2003, and therefore it goes on your 2003 return! (means you don't have to try selling it, either!)
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:25am on 2003-12-30
I'm pretty sure I earned less than enough to have to pay any income tax again this year, in which case the deduction for a charitable donation can't benefit me if I give it away myself. But if a friend who can use the deduction donates it...
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:31am on 2003-12-30
Argh. The form doesn't work. Probably uses Javascript. I'll wrestle with that later to see if there's a way I can do the lookup anyhow, but I may be stuck.
 
posted by [identity profile] damashita.livejournal.com at 10:19am on 2003-12-30
Another possibility, if you can't sell it, is to donate it to charity... i know in Washington state the Salvation Army takes them and uses them for charity work... and you get to write off the full blue book amount.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:27am on 2003-12-30
My income is so low that the write-off for the donation wouldn't have any effect. But as was pointed out just after I posted the entry, the write-off may be worth a lot more to somebody else.
 
posted by [identity profile] xpioti.livejournal.com at 10:22am on 2003-12-30
You could list it in the Post, but that's fee-based. I don't remember how much it cost to list my car; I think it was about $30. I'd be inclined to wander a couple newsgroups and bulletin board-type sites and see if there's anywhere you can post free ads.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:33am on 2003-12-30
I can post to balt.forsale (if anyone actually reads that) ... if anyone knows apropriate bulletin boards off the top of their heads, I'll try them. (Not asking y'all to do my research for me, but if you have the info handy and don't have to do research, I'll gladly let you save me from having to do the research either.)

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