Glenn...I love you. You are a wonderful person. But...
You need to move to a vaguely modern mailreader. Vanilla mailx/Mail is not adequate anymore. Really.
I suggest mutt. Really. I mean it. Along with the appropriate autoview config lines and a mailcap entry, you get to see html mail from people in plain text, the links gathered at the bottom, and it all works well.
I'm pretty sure it should run under cygwin, it comes on every linux distro I've looked at, it's available for most other *ix's. (I'm looking at fink right now to see if MacOS X is one of them...well, fink thinks it can at least build it...)
Yes, complaining about it not having a plain text version is good. But it was a pretty reasonable email, overall, and rendered just fine...
Find me a modern MUA with a UI I can stand for more than twenty minutes.
I have Mutt (under RH and Mandrake), which I use when I get way behind on Elbows or PDML and want to sort/delete by thread. But I hate replying in it. I also use it when I actually need to decode a MIME attachment, which doesn't happen often. And to mail a binary, but that's straight from the comand line: "echo 'one line message' | mutt -x -a filename -s subject recipient", so I don't have to deal with the user interface.
(In addition to not liking the UI -- though I'll say that it's a lot more Glennish than anything I've seen under MacOS or Windows so far -- I've got a configuration problem on my LAN that causes Mutt to complain about locks not working right, so I have to run it on the file server if I want to make any changes to any files; /bin/mail ignores the NFS lock issue, so I can run it on my usual login machine. But part of the reason I haven't tried harder to fix that problem is that I don't like Mutt well enough in the first place.)
What I really need is a modernized version of /bin/mail, with MIME awareness, maybe HTML, and sort-by-thread. Plus a couple of message-status flags. What I don't need is to use a tool that Bugs The Shit Out Of Me every single day I use it. *shrug* Mutt's pretty impressively designed, but it's got a couple of aspects that don't work well for me personally.
Somebody suggested mh a while back. I need to take a look at that.
I'll put in a plug for Pine. In addition to doing a reasonable job of rendering HTML into plain text (plus being able to fire up links/lynx for you if you want to follow a link), it also will work with an IMAP server (and you won't notice _much_ difference than running it on local mailboxes). Plus there's a native Windows port should you need that.
The configuration can sometimes be daunting when searching for a particular feature you know "must be in there somewhere", but overall it isn't bad (can use the built-in config editor, or just edit the .pinerc file). If you want to know more, you can email me at "vicky at steeds dot com".
I thought your picture looked familiar. We have danced together, at the MD armory, among other places, back when I was not yet old, and simply Hedwig, a humble 3-left-footer.
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You need to move to a vaguely modern mailreader. Vanilla mailx/Mail is not adequate anymore. Really.
I suggest mutt. Really. I mean it. Along with the appropriate autoview config lines and a mailcap entry, you get to see html mail from people in plain text, the links gathered at the bottom, and it all works well.
I'm pretty sure it should run under cygwin, it comes on every linux distro I've looked at, it's available for most other *ix's. (I'm looking at fink right now to see if MacOS X is one of them...well, fink thinks it can at least build it...)
Yes, complaining about it not having a plain text version is good. But it was a pretty reasonable email, overall, and rendered just fine...
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I have Mutt (under RH and Mandrake), which I use when I get way behind on Elbows or PDML and want to sort/delete by thread. But I hate replying in it. I also use it when I actually need to decode a MIME attachment, which doesn't happen often. And to mail a binary, but that's straight from the comand line: "echo 'one line message' | mutt -x -a filename -s subject recipient", so I don't have to deal with the user interface.
(In addition to not liking the UI -- though I'll say that it's a lot more Glennish than anything I've seen under MacOS or Windows so far -- I've got a configuration problem on my LAN that causes Mutt to complain about locks not working right, so I have to run it on the file server if I want to make any changes to any files; /bin/mail ignores the NFS lock issue, so I can run it on my usual login machine. But part of the reason I haven't tried harder to fix that problem is that I don't like Mutt well enough in the first place.)
What I really need is a modernized version of /bin/mail, with MIME awareness, maybe HTML, and sort-by-thread. Plus a couple of message-status flags. What I don't need is to use a tool that Bugs The Shit Out Of Me every single day I use it. *shrug* Mutt's pretty impressively designed, but it's got a couple of aspects that don't work well for me personally.
Somebody suggested mh a while back. I need to take a look at that.
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And of course, things can be configured, on build, to deal with different locking situations...
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*waves* :)
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yay mh :)
Re: Mail User Agents
rendering HTML into plain text (plus being able to fire up links/lynx
for you if you want to follow a link), it also will work with an IMAP
server (and you won't notice _much_ difference than running it on local
mailboxes). Plus there's a native Windows port should you need that.
The configuration can sometimes be daunting when searching for a particular feature you know "must be in there somewhere", but overall
it isn't bad (can use the built-in config editor, or just edit the .pinerc file). If you want to know more, you can email me at "vicky at steeds dot com".
- Vicky
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