posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 04:25pm on 2004-02-27
In this case I did it the hard way:
εν αρχη εστιν
and so on. I think [livejournal.com profile] madbodger mentioned something about being able to conveniently type Greek in Mac OS X in "Unicode mode"; I haven't found a good way to do that under Windows yet, and until I started seeing the results of it, I was nervous about Unicode/browser interactions.

I can cut-and-paste Greek under Windows, but until I do a "view source" on this comment, I won't be sure exactly which encoding it uses when I do that. In this case, I picked the verse I happen to have memorized in Greek (John 1:1) so I just typed it in, with all the ampersands and semicolons.

And now the copy/paste test: "εν αρχη εστιν ο λογος, [...]"
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 04:39pm on 2004-02-27
Oh my. "View source" reveals that ... Vi For Windows does not have a bloody clue what to do with Unicode. It shows up as a bunch of box/line-drawing characters. I wonder whether Notepad can cope...
 
posted by [identity profile] keith-m043.livejournal.com at 08:39am on 2004-02-28
ϝαυ
did you or the interpreter know to pick the proper sigmas?
hmm doesn't seem to work for me
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 08:45am on 2004-02-28
It worked for you, for two out of three letters. I see the alpha and upsilon. You picked an awfully obscure one to start with (hadn't the digamma fallen out of use by Homer's time?). Admittedly it'd be nice if the HTML tokens were that thorough, but I'm not surprised they left that one out. (I wonder whether there's a Unicode value for it.)

You have to specify σ for an internal sigma or ς for a terminal sigma.
 
posted by [identity profile] keith-m043.livejournal.com at 09:46am on 2004-02-28
Well I was trying to type "wow" and υαυ just didn't seem to cut it and trying the digamma was just an additonal test I could do at the same time. Now I wonder if there are other easter egg characters one can print with &, such as thorn þ
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 09:55am on 2004-02-28
Thorn and eth, IIRC, but not yogh. (In fact, when I was attempting to typeset a song, I either couldn't yogh in Unicode at all or I couldn't find it in the fonts I have; I forget which. I wound up using '3' in place of it.

Note BTW that these tokens are case sensitive: you can write an uppercase &Thorn;orn with &Thorn; -- similarly for the Greek letters.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 09:58am on 2004-02-28
Huh. In the comment where I say it works, it fails. Odd and upsetting. :-(

þ Þ ð Ð σ Σ

Hmm.

Got it: For the OE/ME/Danish characters you capitalize the entire token:
Þ -- but for the Greek you only capitalize the first letter: Σ (an onfortunate inconsistency. *pout*)
 
posted by [identity profile] keith-m043.livejournal.com at 10:40am on 2004-02-28
using google(html &epsilon &alpha þ), I found this printer friendly link: http://www.creationguide.com/characters/index.html It seems to me to support most west european writing and math (including set notation). I noticed that there is a sequence for the euro "&euro" € so they must be updating this list of special characters from time to time :) Thanx for showing off your html skills and explaining them afterwards ^_^
 
posted by [identity profile] keith-m043.livejournal.com at 09:52am on 2004-02-28
it worked, this feature seems rather low level so I suspect it's a feature of HTML 1 or 2 mebbe. I will have to see if googling will turn up an exhaustive listing. ^_^

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