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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:49pm on 2004-04-15

I really shouldn't have to send a 158K message including the original attachments to someone in order to convince him that he did in fact send me attachments. I suppose he doesn't think I can tell the difference between a URL and an attachment, or that I can't tell how large a message is? (It's not like I'm seeing pictures and assuming they're attachments -- I'm using a text-only mail reader. I see more than a thousand lines of base-64 crap and know it's not just a URL.)

But if that's what it takes ...

... Let's just hope it's enough, and that he believes me now when I tell him that Netscape did not do what he thought it was doing. He said he couldn't possibly have sent a message that large because it would have taken all day to send the 3000 copies. My guess is that he's connecting to an MTA operated by his ISP, and only one copy of the message ever went out from his computer, exploding to 3000 copies at his ISP's mail server. (Thank goodness he did use Bcc for most of the list, though I'm still wondering why so many addresses were posted in the clear.)

Things like this are why I think it's important to try to convey at least some part of How The Net Works to people, not just "you push this button and mail goes out". End-users do not have to be network gurus, but it might be good to understand that there's a water heater in the basement which can be temporarily exhausted and which has a pilot light which can usually be ignored but occasionally needs re-lighting, rather than only "this is the hot-water tap, and it turns this way".

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posted by [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com at 03:06pm on 2004-04-15
A Net user's license, parallel to a driver's license and the hypothetical gun owner's license?

If I were writing the test, basic netiquette would be on it, for sure, as would understanding basic net mechanics.

On the other hand, I'm just as glad not to have such a test. Even in the face of the truth of today's Helen, Sweetheart of the Internet -- which, Fiorello style, reads like this:

Helen and her boss are looking at a terminal (of which we see the back). Dialogue, panel 1: Helen -- "It really depresses me, what's happened to the Internet"

Panel 2: Helen -- "All those people got on it"
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 03:52pm on 2004-04-15
Well yeah, if there were an entrance exam, an awful lot of the people I'm glad I can talk to via email and LJ, and share cool web sites with, wouldn't be here. I just wish "learn a basic idea of how it works once you find out you want to be here" were a dominant meme among non-geeks.

Similarly, when Permanent September arrived, I wasn't thinking, "There goes the neighbourhood," so much, but more like, "Oh no, how are we going to keep up with educating and socializing them all?"

I remember being being online had its own special cachet. But even then, I was describing it to non-geek friends and relatives and wishing they would see it as a useful tool instead of as "a geek thing" because I wanted to be able to reach them by email too.

So I'm wishing I could convince, not enforce.
 
posted by [identity profile] blumindy.livejournal.com at 06:29pm on 2004-04-15
Perhaps while convincing them on this topic, you might mention the usefulness of........long division?
Are ALL your battles uphill ones?
(Don't EVEN turn the question around on me......)
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posted by [personal profile] siderea at 10:19pm on 2004-04-15
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posted by [personal profile] siderea at 10:18pm on 2004-04-15
I want one of two things. I want either the technologically ignorant to remedy their ignorance, or I want their abject obedience in technical matters. It really doesn't matter too much which I get.

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posted by [personal profile] cellio at 07:38am on 2004-04-16
Yup. Both work fine; some people I've successfully taught, and some I've successfully pushed into reasonable practices. Too bad there are still so many people who fall into neither group. :-(
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 08:19am on 2004-04-16
That just went into the QotD queue. It really ought to be a .signature, but I don't use mine often enough.

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