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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:25am on 2004-05-03

"A consortium of leaders from within the community of reason recently endorsed the idea of a National Day of Reason. This observance will be held in parallel with the National Day of Prayer, on the first Thursday in May (1 May 2003). The goal of this effort is to celebrate reason - a concept all Americans can support - and to raise public awareness about the persistent threat to religious liberty posed by government intrusion into the private sphere of worship." -- From "Why a National Day of Reason?"

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posted by [identity profile] alyxyn.livejournal.com at 02:22am on 2004-05-03
How about the persistent threat to non-religious liberty posed by evangelical religion's intrusion into the government?
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posted by [personal profile] siderea at 04:14am on 2004-05-03
Sssssshhhhhhhhh! It's easier to sell them the other version.
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posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 06:42am on 2004-05-03
a) As far as I'm concerned, "religious liberty" includes freedom-from-religion. And I'm pretty sure that's the real point here in the first place.

b) What [livejournal.com profile] siderea said. Make it a "pro-something" statement instead of an "anti-something" one, and at the same time avoid looking like you're attacking the theocrats.

The Religious Right will, of course, still perceive this as an attack (or at least opposition), but you want the initial reaction of third parties to be that you're standing up for something positive, not picking a fight with a different group. (They'll notice that, but you want it to be the second thing they notice, not the first. Makes it easier for them to sympathize with you. Not phrasing it as anti-religion especially makes it easier to religious people who aren't trying to be pushy to get on board, like me.)

Note that this is why we have "pro-choice" and "pro-life" movements, instead of "pro-choice" and "anti-choice". And why anti-GBLT groups try to sell themselves as "pro-family-values" -- they want to be For something Positive. I should be able to toss out several more examples, but I'm blanking -- maybe someone who's gotten more sleep will do so.
 
posted by [identity profile] anniemal.livejournal.com at 12:34pm on 2004-05-03
Didn't we once have an Age of Reason? One day is scarce ynogh to teach a ewe to to think and speak. Well, maybe if she's partially trained already. Forget the rams, though. I don't mean anything mean by this. It just takes time and effort to Reason.

I have this thing on my bathroom wall. It was overheard on Diane Rehm (sp?) a couple years ago. My eyes glazed over. Honestly. "I think we think we are accustomed to the rigors of thinking."?!

An Age is in order. Reason takes more than a day to, well, ferment properly. National Nothing Day is easy. Reason needs a lifetime or two. And someone needs to breed and spread it to their kids.

At one point I had, and may yet if I hunt hard, an Age of Reason Reader. Reason is tough. I check mine against many.

I'm dodging Faith on this one.

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