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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 09:32am on 2004-05-10

[Again with the mysterious failure of the scheduled posting, but this time instead of "errors logging in", it was "unknown error". Odd.]

From a Washington Post web chat (quoted by [livejournal.com profile] midwinter on 2004-04-29):

Janice Shaw Crouse, PHD: I haven't mentioned religion a single time this morning.

Oakton, Va.: You did mention religion when you said that any child, no matter how they were conceived, was a blessing from God. I noticed that, too.

Janice Shaw Crouse, Ph.D.: OOPs -- guess I did -- in some peoples' view. I don't consider that "religion." I consider that a statement of fact.

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posted by [identity profile] lothie.livejournal.com at 09:27am on 2004-05-10
I agree, actually...
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posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 09:34am on 2004-05-10
There are several religious statements I consider fact. But that doesn't make them areligious.
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posted by [identity profile] lothie.livejournal.com at 02:51pm on 2004-05-10
I just don't find saying that X is a blessing from god to be a religious statement, is all.
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Fact vs. Faith

posted by [identity profile] blumindy.livejournal.com at 10:44am on 2004-05-10
A fact is something that has an objective component. In other words it is provable or definable under a consensus despite a given observer's feelings.

Matters of faith are beliefs which are subject to acceptance of non-provable ideas or experiences. The size of the group in which the consensus to believe a given idea exists does NOT influence whether or not an idea is either a fact or an article of faith.

Babies are NOT gifts from God. I defy anyone to objectively prove that they are such. We believe this about children because it is what we FEEL.
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Re: Fact vs. Faith

posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 08:55pm on 2004-05-10
Well said. :) I would have nailed the speaker for that one, too, but then again, I'm not religious, and people waving their gods around as objective facts tend to attract my attention. An Ad Populum fallacy by any other name... ;)
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posted by [identity profile] malada.livejournal.com at 05:19am on 2004-05-11
Janice Shaw Crouse, Ph.D.: OOPs -- guess I did -- in some peoples' view. I don't consider that "religion." I consider that a statement of fact.


He never met my nephew.

-m
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posted by [identity profile] zachkessin.livejournal.com at 05:03am on 2004-05-17
Well I would consider it a statement of fact at some level too. But I am perfectly happy for you to disagree with me on that one. I also don't tend to think about things as this is a religous thing, and this isn't, its just all part of my life.

As a religous Jew I tend to put the religous secular devide in a very different place from where Christians put it. At some point I could say that if the Talmud or one of the codifications of Jewish law cover it, then its a religious issue. And that covers almost everything from the returning of lost objects (Bava Metziah) to Cooking, (Shabbat and other places) etc.

But I'm strange that way.
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