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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:25am on 2004-11-10

On 2004-09-09, [livejournal.com profile] nancylebov predicted: "Unless there's a solid majority in the polls for one candidate that's reflected in the election results, half the country is going to think the election was stolen, except, perhaps, for a few mathematically inclined folks who think that really close elections are decided by noise."

[I think she was partly right, but it's fewer than half. Some people are thinking the election was stolen; many more are wondering whether it was stolen. Even so, I'm actually hearing less ranting about that than I expected, having agreed with [livejournal.com profile] nancylebov's prediction when she made it.]

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posted by [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com at 02:42am on 2004-11-10
I'm one of the people who's wondering whether it was stolen, and am also wondering whether there's anything useful I can do to promote paper trails.

I seem to have enough of the geek temperment that I'm aesthetically offended by the lack of a paper trail.
 
posted by [identity profile] anniemal.livejournal.com at 02:52am on 2004-11-10
I wanted a paper trail, but I live in a fairly solidly dem area, so am not worried about my drop in the bucket going amiss. Rest of state benighted. Oh, well.
 
posted by [identity profile] keith-m043.livejournal.com at 06:14am on 2004-11-10
Personally I'm pretty sure that the Ohio election was stolen and that the New Life Church polling place (Gahanna 1B) had 4000 extra votes for Bush (in a place that had 600 odd registered voters) because the person who was adding votes screwed up and added 4000 rather than 400 or 40 as a typo. Not sure that anything's going to be done about it, even though technically the election isn't final for another 33 days.
 
posted by [identity profile] blumindy.livejournal.com at 08:24am on 2004-11-10
No sign anywhere that anyone is looking at this AT ALL. It gets mentioned and then dropped like yesterday's weather report.

All I can say is that if I used an ATM and it didn't give me a printed receipt, I'd be checking my account daily AND calling the bank.
When I went in to vote, I looked at the butterfly ballot (it's the only kind I've ever used and I've been voting for 2 decades,) I checked the number on the printed book-ballot to see what numbers were assigned to my choice for president and for senator, I then punched my ballot and pulled the punch card out of the machine to make sure the holes were actually were I wanted them to be.

If someone had told me 10 years ago that I'd be doing that to make sure that my vote *might* count, I'd have thought they were crazy.
I'm relieved to live in a non-swing state.
 
posted by [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com at 11:25am on 2004-11-10
http://www.blackboxvoting.org (not blackboxvoting.com) has about 3000 FOIA requests in to take a look at logs of e-voting servers around the country.

I put a longer follow-up elsewhere about various other tracking/activist sites, but I can't put my hands on it right now.
 
posted by [identity profile] keith-m043.livejournal.com at 09:06pm on 2004-11-12
You may not have heard this yet but the Greens and the Libertarians are calling for a recount.
 
posted by [identity profile] thette.livejournal.com at 08:47am on 2004-11-10
I also believe races won by milliseconds are decided more or less at random.

(But yes, paper _ballots_ and vote counting. Sheesh.)
 
posted by [identity profile] anniemal.livejournal.com at 09:28am on 2004-11-10
I'm still in post-election funk. I went, I voted, and consquently wonder what more than half the country is using for brains. Scrambled eggs and greed? Fear?

I know someone's gonna get on my case for this, but I'm looking at an embarrassing 'nother four years without relief unless both the president and vice- become incapacitated. Which I don't wish on them.
 
posted by [identity profile] anniemal.livejournal.com at 09:37am on 2004-11-10
And I'm hoping should disaster strike the Speaker of the House will have a hard time figuring out what to do, and be ineffectual. Or feckless, whichever you prefer. Then we'll wander out of Iraq, and start minding our own business.
 
posted by [identity profile] blumindy.livejournal.com at 03:43pm on 2004-11-10
Oh, Hun, don't hold your breath. [I'm thinking about inserting a joke about turning blue and how a red-stater won't save you...but /bitterness (kinda.)]

Did you hear the NPR report from other countries? They asked both ex-pats and natives and the Bush-hatred and total anti-American sentiment out there is a-m-a-z-i-n-g and vast.
If America comes out of 2008 at all resembling a place I want to live and with which the world can reconcile, I'll be shocked.
 
posted by [identity profile] keith-m043.livejournal.com at 09:46pm on 2004-11-10
Well, Europe survived two terms of Reagan (of course Reagan never espoused a policy of preemptive strike). Probably everything will be OK as far as dealing with the rest of the world is concerned.

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