posted by [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com at 12:13am on 2005-01-25
"The only way he can be seen as promoting that is if someone is trying to spread the "anyone who opposes the war is anti-[soldier|American]" meme to demonize those who disagree on a matter of policy -- propogandists. In short, you appear to have just what anniemal complained about and you claimed not to do! You just inserted a fallacious "anti-soldier" step in there before continuing to the unAmerican bit."

When it comes to war you have to be very careful on how you protest. In Moore statement he lifts up as honorable those who are killing our troops. This is supporting the enemy. Treating them as the hero and thusly justify there killing of the US troops and the Iraqi's that support them. Tell me this if some one beats the @#%# out of you and then I tell you that that guy was right to do so.. even more so while he is still beating on you would you say he was on your side?

As for violent protest... well that is fine as long as the government can violently put it down. But suspect you would have a problem with that. No issue out there today can justify a violent protest. If you become violent you then justify the government becomeing violent in return.

 
posted by [identity profile] number-12.livejournal.com at 07:15am on 2005-01-25
...that it's incredible that you don't realize it. Moore is not holding up these people as honorable, he is pointing out that others regard them in that light. In attempting to warn his country of this fact, and others, he is in fact as much a patriot as you seem to think he is not. Too bad we "have to be careful" these days.
 
posted by [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com at 09:34pm on 2005-01-25
No were in his letter did he mention that he was trying to put it in the light of how they thought.

The real test is if he would go to iraq and say this to the troops. I think he would be lucky to get out alive and whole. Have you noticed he has never tried to address the troops? Wonder why?

 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 07:19pm on 2005-01-27
Perhaps because he thought it was patently obvious to anyone not deliberately twisting his words?

You're awfully quick to ascribe your own interpretation of his motives to him, with no more evidence.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 07:17pm on 2005-01-27
If I get drunk and start beating the crap out of somebody who called me a rude name, are you "taking his side" if you try to hold me back and tell me I'm out of control and going too far?

The main reason you have to "be careful how you protest" a war is that pro-establishment hawks quick to wrap themselves in the flag will raise spurious accusations against you, not because it actually helps enemy soldiers kill our kids.

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