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eftychia at 08:57pm on 2005-02-01
eftychia at 08:57pm on 2005-02-01(Quick how-I'm-doing update: I've pushed myself kind of hard the past several days, but still hoped to go to 3LF tonight. My body had different ideas. Around 16:00, it was, "Nap NOW!" except that I kept hovering on the edge of sleep and not getting there. Then I got up to try to get ready and felt sick. So not tonight. The day started well enough though.)
As I was reading this article and shaking my head, the thought struck me: "Y'know, one group really does recruit, when you think about it. And it's not any of the groups who joke about it or usually get accused of it." So ... if lesbians allegedly get toasters for recruiting new lesbians, what do hets who recruit "ex-gay" folks get?
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"Rabbi, is there a blessing for [the ex-gay movement]?"
"God bless and keep [the ex-gay movement]...far away from us."
In other words, yay! for those who want to be ex-gay. Now let me munch carpet in peace.
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I mean, you know? If I took out a billboard telling people to come on over to rainbow country, even the GAY community would denounce me. UGH
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[1] The idiom that implies that the "teams" are determined by orientation is the subject for a whole philosophical examination of its own, later.
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Refrigerators?
Showers that only run cold?
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The standard of free speech is that all can speak. If they want to use money out of their pockets to offer a service they are welcome to it. As for homosexuals seeking coverts or desiring to out some one. Well a homosexual man at work once mentioned that his favorate fantasy was to covert a heterosexual in to a homosexual. But, this is no differant then the fairly commong desire of heterosexual men to covert a lesbian to stright.
But a bill board saying "You too can become Gay" would likely recieve equal amount of responce. So they are welcome to yell about it and try to presure the group by proper protest.
Maybe what we really need is a exhostive study on the nature of human sexual behavior.
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I like to qoute Rush on this one "Let them talk... let them show there natures" This for me is the core of a free society. If their message is bad then the people will reject it. If their message is good then people will rally around it. Whatever happened to the idea's of freedom of speach?
If the person who is talking is a "nut job" people will soon learn that as they talk.
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Many people fantasize about all sorts of things. How many act on such fantasies? How many organized groups work specifically to do that?
And the toaster was a pop-culture comedy reference. Don't strain yourself searching for it if it's not already familiar.
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As I mentioned to them and I will mention to you at least they are using only their own money in putting forward their views. In Philadelphia the city pays for part of a gay pride event. Now as offensive as this ad is to you... the gay pride event is equally offensive to others. The only real differance one is paid for privately while the other is paid for by tax dallors.
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So there is no reason to be "sorry" which I am certain you are not.
I created the confussion because I had linked the two seperate discussion on the same matter.
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But I have noticed that you often try to read things into other peoples post. Things not said like you trying find some underlining meaning. Your conclusions are not always correct in this search for underlineing meaning.
I am not trying to anger you. But in the issues of homosexuality I am seeing alot of pushing on both sides. My beef against the pro-homosexual people is that they are using tax dallors and government structure to push for their desires. I would care as much if the used their own money or set up private eduction groups or put up bill boards with their money.
YOu see what offend me isn't the homosexuality. It is the use of the government to promote it. As I eluded to in other discussion I am against government "Social Engineering" no matter how good the cause you think it is. I am against Judges makeing laws, that is the job of the legislature. I am against the government not listening to the people. If your read my arguements that is the steam from which all this flows. My idea of getting government out of marriage in a compromise (since I am sick and tired of government pushing morality and acceptance).