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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:56pm on 2005-02-08

On listening to Home (by The Homespun Celidh Band, release due Real Soon Now):

It's a lot easier to maintain a steady 70 MPH while listening to a march than while listening to reels; driving slowly while reels are playing on the stereo requires a bit more attention.

An observation a propos of nothing in particular:

It's not v that kills; it's Δv that kills.

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posted by [identity profile] puzzledance.livejournal.com at 11:08pm on 2005-02-08
I am anxiously awaiting the release of the new album. Just visited the HCB page on washingtonpost.com -- there's a song on there about cicadas! I can't believe that nobody told me!

*hugs*
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:32am on 2005-02-09
Whoops! I thought I'd told people about that. My bad.

Note that in addition to "Cicada Gourmet", there's another cicada song written by HCB members, "Cicadazzzz", on the Peat And Barley" (http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/peat_and_barley.shtml) page. (Peat And Barley is the name Bill and Becky perform under as a duo.)

I think that both cicada MP3 files were intended to only be up temporarily (I didn't realize they were still there), so interested folks ought to grab them soonish just in case.
 
posted by [identity profile] puzzledance.livejournal.com at 03:17pm on 2005-02-09
It's possible that you posted a link, and I missed it. I'm pretty sure I would have noticed, though. I had heard Cicadazzzz, but I wandered there on my own from the Peat & Barley web site, because, hey, Becky Ross!

At the moment, however, Cicada Gourmet is more, ahem, apropos, because my friend [livejournal.com profile] tamnonlinear recently returned from a trip to Australia, where her uncle encouraged her to eat witchetty grubs (except that they weren't; read her entry for that story). She said she wanted to try them, though, and I asked her if she wanted to try cicadas, too. How often do you run across a song that talks about eating cicadas and witchetty grubs?
 
posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 11:41pm on 2005-02-08
Sorry, sorry, sorry, you probably already know what I'm going to say.

You're getting your French mixed up with your Latin (this happens)... "A propos" (two words) is "by the way" (in the idiomatic sense, as in "By the way, your shoe is untied.") in French, and "apropos" is "having to do with" in Latin, as in "apropos of nothing," which this comment isn't... ;)

I hate myself sometimes... :(
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:33am on 2005-02-09
Whoops.
 
posted by [identity profile] bkleber.livejournal.com at 11:56pm on 2005-02-08
v can kill just as easily, in the right situations. If you're going at mach three you're going to get burned to cinders before you ahve time to slow down much.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:48am on 2005-02-09
Isn't Mach a relative measurement to begin with?

Anyhow, if I'm flying through the air at a groundspeed of 2,100 MPH with a 2,100 MPH tailwind (holding onto a tiny kite while visiting a planet with really extreme weather, perhaps) -- or in a vacuum -- I don't think I'll feel much friction. So it's still the delta that'll hurt me so badly if you toss me out of a fighter jet naked. :-P

I took the liberty of rephrasing without Mach numbers 'cause I'm not sure whether that'd still count as 'supersonic flight" -- after all, the "sound barrier" aerodynamic problems of transsonic airspeed wouldn't apply, right? And because I think trying to measure Mach numbers in a vacuum (the other half of my "I won't burn up if", above) gives you a divide-by-zero error.
 
posted by [identity profile] bkleber.livejournal.com at 01:29pm on 2005-02-09
If you're flying with a groundspeed of 2100 MPH and have a tail wind of 2100 MPH, unless you're extremely bouyant, you're falling like a rock :-P

So then by delta v, are you talking about one body's velocity relative to another, or to one body's change in velocity (which can be measured locally by an accellerometer with no outside reference--changing from 1mph to 2mph registeres the same total delta v as the change from 300 to 301)? Mach is a relative measure: your speed relative to the air around you. I instantly jumped into all the fizzix problems that they threw at me all through college where delta v refers specifically to the change in velocity that a single body undergoes. Divide delta v by time and you get the impulse, which is essentially how much of a jolt you get. This impulse is what, say, kills you if you jump off a tall building and don't die of heart failure before you have your brief and sudden stop.

I'm still thinking that there are situations where your speed, and your speed-induced interaction with the surroundings, will be what cause your demise.

Let's say (since I always like the physics of killing people by tossing them out of planes--it's all because of my first fizzix teacher, Mr. Morris) that instead of throwing you out of a jet moving with sufficient airspeed to turn the nosecone cherry-red and leaving you to your eventual demise, we were to strap you to the nosecone once we've reached this hot speed. If the engines keep on, you'll have no delta v (by the definition I'm used to) whatsoever, but you'll end up some unpleasant combination of crispy and mushy by the end of a few minutes.
 
posted by [identity profile] faireraven.livejournal.com at 12:13am on 2005-02-09
It's not v that kills; it's Δv that kills.

Damned physics. ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:53am on 2005-02-09
Blessed physics. ;-)
 
posted by [identity profile] bkleber.livejournal.com at 01:30pm on 2005-02-09
Here, here!!

Interesting sidenote having to do with a glitch in LJ: I clicked here to reply immediately after psoting my "how to fry a person using a jet plane and the wind" psot above, and when the "comment" window appeared, it was pre-populated with the entire text that I had just written. Verry neat.
 
posted by [identity profile] juuro.livejournal.com at 06:22pm on 2005-02-09
Cognitive sciences (as opposed to psychology) tell us that the visual-motor coordination skills of the human mind are re-entrant only to a minor degree. This means that if one is engaged in imagining a sensomotoric activity while performing another sensomotoric activity, one of them is going to suffer.

It is possible to chew on a gum while walking, as long as one doesn't try to visualise the deformations of the gum and the action of the mandible.
 
posted by [identity profile] anniemal.livejournal.com at 09:01am on 2005-02-11
I will carry the secret of how fast a Chevy Cavalier can go on twisty rural roads with a driver listening to jigs to my grave. Well, there were a couple polkas. Those straightaways were fun, though.

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