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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 03:04pm on 2005-02-12

I just found out that Congress is considering a law to ban urban legends. "The bill would punish individuals who create or spread this type of information. Penalties range from fines of $500 for sending an urban legend e-mail to 90 days in jail for creating and publishing one." While I do get tired of debunking the various hoaxes that are forwarded to me by friends and relatives, I have to agree with the ACLU on this one: "The ACLU contends that this law would violate free speech rights. 'Congress cannot limit constitutionally guaranteed rights, just because they are too dumb to realize something is a piece of fiction. We are confident the law will be overturned,' said Chief Counsel Elliott Spence." It's also not clear from the article whether traditional, pre-email methods of urban legend would be penalized, nor whether scholarly discussion of urban legends by folklorists and sociologists would be exempted. This could be as big a threat to the Internet as the email-tax! This is important, folks. Go check out the link and read it very carefully, then take appropriate action! And don't forget to read the fine print at the very bottom of the page for crucial contact info to voice your opposition to this bill.

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posted by [personal profile] gsh at 08:07pm on 2005-02-12
Hmm, did you check it on Snopes to see if it were legit? :)

 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 03:49am on 2005-02-13
No, but I did read the fine print at the bottom of the page..
 
posted by [identity profile] osuneko.livejournal.com at 08:15pm on 2005-02-12
Hmm. I'm torn. I hate lying and I hate people who lie. I would wager to say that it could quite closely fall into the area of being something like "perjury against the public." I don't really like to hear misleading news and something like this might actually hold reporters accountable for spreading any information which they aren't sure of or don't have reason to believe is true. Gossip is bad for any community, but let it thrive on a large scale basis and you end up with major problems and even mass hysteria.

On the other hand, it is true that people have the right to choose to do something wrong. They have the right to lie, they have the right to steal, etc. But if we're going to equate stealing and other wrong doings to that of lying, than logically, lying to the public should be penalized. We need laws to keep the peace, but when is it going just a little too far?

This one is definitely a toughie for me, if it in fact turns out to not be an urban legend in and of itself.
 
posted by [identity profile] still-asking.livejournal.com at 08:31pm on 2005-02-12
You can't make it illegal to be stupid and there are already laws against fraud - mabye this is a meta-myth?
 
posted by [identity profile] still-asking.livejournal.com at 08:33pm on 2005-02-12
Would snipe hunting also be banned?
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 03:51am on 2005-02-13
Didn't you know? Snipe have been on the endangered list for eight years or so. That is the reason folks have so much trouble finding them.
 
posted by [identity profile] elkor.livejournal.com at 08:33pm on 2005-02-12
I really don't think that is a legitimate article.

There is no Representative Heedsmore from West Virginia
Virginia Congressman

And if you do a google there is NO other article about legislation to ban Urban Legends.

I think you got snookered, dude.
 
posted by [identity profile] elkor.livejournal.com at 08:40pm on 2005-02-12
There are three Representative Lewis's, but none are from South Carolina

Also, look at the other articles on the site. They stretch the boundaries of credibility.

 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 03:52am on 2005-02-13
The other articles look exactly as credible to me as the fine print at the very bottom of the page led me to believe this one is.
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posted by [personal profile] siderea at 04:00am on 2005-02-13
Go read the last line of the article. You just failed a saving throw.
 
posted by [identity profile] elkor.livejournal.com at 07:36am on 2005-02-13
Was that directed at me or at dglenn?
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posted by [personal profile] siderea at 08:06am on 2005-02-13
At you.
 
posted by [identity profile] lonebear.livejournal.com at 09:13pm on 2005-02-12
read the very very very very last line on the page.

and take note of the mood.
 
posted by [identity profile] anniemal.livejournal.com at 09:13pm on 2005-02-12
No matter what, I shall defend the 1st amendment and talk-story. But this one does sound like bs to me, thank heavens. I hope. Everyone else has done better research than i. There's enough real scary stuff going on. But I don't need urban legends like this.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 04:20am on 2005-02-13
Actually, it looks like others did the wrong kind of research. Considering the very last line on that page, that is. But you needn't worry in any case.
 
posted by [identity profile] anniemal.livejournal.com at 04:48am on 2005-02-13
You're quite right. My stories are largely true to experience. Never mind that mine is odd. But i like urban legends. They are amusing.
 
posted by [identity profile] cchan8.livejournal.com at 01:28am on 2005-02-13
$500 fine for you Glenn!! :) Assuming this applies to blogs as well as email.. oh well, you get off on a technicality.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 04:16am on 2005-02-13
Can I plead for a reduction of the fine in light of having included clues and a pointer to the disclaimer?

Oh what the hell -- it was worth it. ;-)
 
posted by [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com at 01:38am on 2005-02-13
I happen to agree with you on this one. (funny that :))

People should be allowed to say what they want even if it is a lie. Plus the amount of time a resources to find and remove "urban ledgends" is just a waste of money.

I know what the intent is but I think it is a fuitless law that should never be attempted. But it appears it has not gotten past the maybe we will stage yet.
 
posted by [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com at 01:43am on 2005-02-13
Well I guess I was snockered also... it seem very strange in the first place.

"BBspot is a satirical news and comedy source and meant to be funny. If you are easily offended, gullible or don't have a sense of humor we suggest you go elsewhere."
 

LOL

posted by [identity profile] liritsvoice.livejournal.com at 02:18pm on 2005-02-13
yeah, gotta read that fine print ;-) excellent find, hon!

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