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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 02:31pm on 2005-03-18

It's handy to get some magazines in dead-tree format, especially free ones (which reminds me, I need to renew my free subscriptions). I keep one of the two most recent issues of InfoWorld on the kitchen table to read at breakfast, and the other next to the toilet. It makes it harder to copy/paste quotes that I find interesting (uh, okay, it makes it easier to cut and paste literally, but harder to cross between the physical-literal and the online-metaphorical, okay?), but it means having reading material away from my desk and my bed without having to first outload it to my PDA. (The aesthetic pleasures of reading a physical book aren't a big deal to me in this case, though they do come up when I think about novels instead of trade magazines. OTOH, the observations that I seem to use my eyes differently (or at least strain them differently) and that for some reason some things seem easier to read-and-absorb on paper than on the screen do pertain -- they're just not smartass enough.)

I was just skimming an article about 3G mobile networks, and the bit about 400Kbps at $80/month caught my attention. Yeah, that's not super-fast compared to what a lot of my friends are getting, but it beats my 56K modem which seems to vary between 40Kbps and 59Kbps depending on whether Mercury is in trine with Jupiter or something. My first thought was, "Instead of replacing my POTS landline and modem with broadband (dry DSL if I can find it cheaply enough, or cable if Comcast ever provides data service within the city), I could replace my POTS landline and my cellular service with 3G mobile. (I've not yet gotten around to building a parabolic antenna to see whether I can pick up a reflection of the free Wi-Fi signal at the Inner Harbor. That's a project for Real Soon Now, maybe next week if next week doesn't feel like most of this week has.) It reminds me a bit of ex-housemates who set up the house Internet connection over a Ricochet frob (IIRC, we switched off between Ricochet and dialup depending on how much speed we needed at the moment), which I would have done myself when I moved to Baltimore, except that Ricochet didn't cover Baltimore at that time. (It did shortly thereafter, but seems to have vanished entirely since. (Or did it just change its name and business model?))

Switching to cellular for my main Internet connection would mean making some changes to the way I approach my computer setup. It would mean carrying my Internet connection with me, which would mean carrying my "main computer" with me so that it didn't wind up being unreachable whenever I left the house. Basically, it would mean replacing my home computers with a truly personal computer, making any left-at-home machines more peripherals than infrastructure. (I'm assuming, for the moment, that I could carry on a voice conversation at the same time as I was using a data connection, using that $80/month service. That's something I'd have to check if I were to take this beyond the thought-experiment level.)

Currently, I'm using a bunch of computers on a house LAN. Speeds range from 66 MHz to... uh, somewhere in the 350 MHz range, if I remember right -- I have to go check my notes on the most recent gifts I added to the network. I've got some cron jobs that assume the Internet is always nearby, including the one that keeps my disk quota at my ISP from overflowing with mail, and I count on being able to fetch files (or even make use of tools) on my home machines from anyplace where I can run telnet (and occasionally a web browser if I need to run a Windows program over VNC). The largest disk drive I own is 40 GB and is, of course, in my file server, which runs NFS, Appletalk, and Samba. (Actually the drive isn't even mine, it's very-long-term borrowed from a friend.) To reasonably carry my Internet connection with me instead of leaving it at home, I would have to carry my file server and most of the functionality I'd want to access as well.

The thing is, that might be possible. Maybe not within my budget, but as long as I'm conducting thought experiments ...

Larger disk drives have gotten smaller. The last time I was in a computer store, I peered at the disk drives (I was looking into the feasibility of buying more drives the same size as the one on my file server to make a RAID system) and it took me a while to find one as small as my "big drive" -- there were a lot of 80G and 160G, but just one 40G tucked in a corner. IIRC, there are laptops with 80G drives these days, n'est-ce pas?

One of the reasons I've got so many computers is so that I can split up the work among a bunch of slowish (by today's standards) boxes -- dividing a bunch of tasks which, all taken together, would bog down any of the boxes I had when I started setting up my LAN. Other reasons are so that I can have workstations in various rooms, and so that I can run multiple operating systems. There's also a security motivation, and a "place to tinker, experiment, and learn about networking stuff" aspect. Well what if I managed to get my hands on a top of the line, extremely fast laptop with a largeish screen, tons of RAM, and a nice big disk? It might or might not be as fast as all of my current machines combined, but it ought to be fast enough to keep up with everything I'm trying to do interactively at once plus all the little infrastructure tasks (such as name service). I'd lose the safety of having a physically separate machine act as the firewall, which scares me a little, but other than that I could have my multiple operating systems running on virtual machines, though having at least one architecture run as an emulator instead of native would cost me a bit of performance.

(I'm thinking that it's easier to emulate an Intel VM under Mac OS X than it is to emulate Mac hardware on an Intel box, right? So the question would be whether I can run VMware (or something similar) using OS X as the base OS and then run Intel emulators for the Windows and Linux virtual machines within VMware, or whether I'd run a Windows emulator under OS X, run VMware within that, and then have my virtual Windows and Linux machines inside that copy of VMware. (Not that I'd need to use Linux for as many things as I currently do, if I had OS X sitting there, but I'd probably want access to my existing tools and environment at least at first; I'm not sure whether I'd set up virtual machines for BSD and Sunos or not.))

So I would consolidate most of my personal computing environment into one box and carry it with me all the time. Instead of borrowing someone else's machine and firing up telnet to access "home" files, they'd be right on the box in my hand. All the machines at home would be optional extensions to my Main Machine, and be effectively dormant (maybe even switched off! *gasp*) when I wasn't at home -- when I used them, it would be to make a workstation available to a guest, or for experimenting with stuff that I didn't want to put on the main box without tinkering first, or for managing devices too bulky to carry with me all the time, such as a laser printer and a flatbed scanner, or for when I wanted to spread things out over more screens. Maybe I'd make one of the home machines into a PVR. The home machines would either not rely on the file server or would only do things when I was home, 'cause I'd be carrying all the file-server files with me.

I guess the PDA would still be useful for taking notes when I'm standing or walking or don't have room to set the laptop down and open it up, but it would no longer be my main means of carrying data with me.

Handling phone calls would be a little less convenient, since the connection would be on the laptop, not on my wee little Motorola handset, but I figure I could plug a handsfree headset into the laptop. (Come to think of it, if I went with VOIP, it wouldn't matter whether the G3 service handled simultaneous voice and data use. Or is VOIP another monthly bill added on? I've never really looked closely at how VOIP works.)

Hmm. I'd have to give up my plans to eventually set up one of my home machines to monitor the burglar alarm sensors (when the house was burgled, they stole the burglar alarm's central unit but didn't bother to take the door, window, and motion sensors) and email my phone if it detected something amiss. And I'd have to worry about battery life and keeping things charged (oh my ... Pennsic ...). I've already mentioned that a "soft" firewall makes me a bit nervous. And the initial hardware cost would be pretty damned high (and I'd no longer be able to upgrade by simply plugging in another hand-me-down box). OTOH, it'd be a significantly faster connection for a monthly cost comparable to what I'm currently paying for the POTS line and cellular service combined, and I'd always have my tools at my fingertips.

Note that I don't actually see myself doing this (largely because of that huge initial hardware (and VMware license) cost (but I wonder how it would compare to the cost buying an UPS for each of my existing machines...)), but it's interesting to consider how my approach to using my computer would change, as well as how my approach to configuring my machine(s) would have to change, as a result of shifting from a "this is the computer system in my house" paradigm to "this is the computer on my person". I've been thinking in the "build out my spiffy home computing environment and then see what access to it I can have when I'm away" model for a very long time now. Switching to "this is my one computer" would be a dramatic change. If nothing else, thinking about this has suddenly driven home to me the difference between thinking about a computer as a "home computer" and thinking about it as a "personal computer".


Hmm. 'Nuther thought. What about a backpack containing a handful of Mac Minis and some batteries, plus a keyboard and an LCD monitor? Those things are tiny and don't weigh much. (I mean really, I held one and it felt like a doggone toy. Reading the specs didn't quite register, but picking one up was startling: "There is HOW MUCH computing power in this ... this ... this plastic doodad that looks like like a Tupperware sandwich-holder and feels like it doesn't even have the sandwich in it?" Batteries would add a lot to the weight of the system, of course.) I could dedicate one to being a firewall, and if the performance cost of running an Intel emulator were too high, then I could still take the "just throw another box in the backpack" upgrade path and give each Windows or Linux host its own CPU. The PDA would get more use, 'cause using the backpack network would involve pulling out the keyboard and monitor and finding someplace to put them, instead of just opening a clamshell, but a backpack netowork of Minis would be a conversation-starter ...

Now if only I could afford to drop a bunch of cash on hardware.

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posted by [identity profile] darwiniacat.livejournal.com at 07:49pm on 2005-03-18
Verizon DSL just went to $29.00 a month if you sign up for a one year contract by 3/31.

I would much prefer to have several machines for the redundancy in case one tossed it's cookies rather than combine them all into one. That's one reason I'm trying to set up this Linux machine although I'm think of going to Mac. Would a Mac run on the network and talk to my windows machines?

And I can't imagine wanting to haul around a laptop with me unless I were going away someplace overnight.

We've thought about doing VOIP here. Not sure where the verdict on that is at the moment.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 08:05pm on 2005-03-18
But that $29.99 is for DSL added to an existing POTS line, not "dry" DSL, right? ('Cause if I'm still paying for the POTS line, then the total cost per month is closer to $60.)

The redundancy issues is a very good point. I've already had two Macs, a Windows machine, and a couple of Linux boxes die. Having spare hardware meant I could transplant the drives (or in the case of the Win95 machine, just do without for now, since I've also got WinNT and Win2K in the house). Putting all my eggs in one basket means having to be able to really trust that basket.

I already carry too much stuff in my purse and an SLR or two, so I shouldn't be thinking about adding a laptop to the weight on my left shoulder, but I think I can imagine doing so. It would be a noticeable change though, and make my "everyday everywhere stuff" a bulkier bundle. So even though I didn't dwell on that above, it's a serious effect-on-lifestyle consideration. Small, but significant.
 
posted by [identity profile] darwiniacat.livejournal.com at 08:12pm on 2005-03-18
I'll add that I know you are larger and stronger than I am but even with me carrying a very small backpack and wearing both straps to distribute the weight, when my fibro is acting up like it has been lately, adding the extra weight of even a very lightweight laptop would be out of the question.

And yes, I do believe that the DSL is on top of the landline but don't you have that already?
 
posted by [identity profile] unix-vicky.livejournal.com at 08:26pm on 2005-03-18
And yes, I do believe that the DSL is on top of the landline but don't you have that already?


Don't forget: If you get Verizon DSL added to an existing Verizon landline, you can use it for both Net access and voice calls at the same time.

 
posted by [identity profile] darwiniacat.livejournal.com at 08:29pm on 2005-03-18
True, even if you keep your landline (a good idea IMHO even if you were to have cable modem and cell) you could use VOIP for long distance.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 08:35pm on 2005-03-18
When I first got a cell phone, it was because with my existing pattern of use it was cheaper than getting a second landline and racking up long distance charges. Now I've gotten used to the mobile aspect of having a cell phone. If I give up the mobility and can use VOIP to avoid long-distance charges, then I can use the cell phone money to pay for DSL (assuming I can reliably come up with that money -- right now I just do without my (prepaid) cell when I can't afford more airtime). I've got some thinking to do.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 08:28pm on 2005-03-18
*nod* Like I said, I shouldn't be thinking about adding more weight ...

And yes, I already have a landline, but despite the daydream involving unrealistic one-time hardware costs, the notion that spurred me on that flight of fancy was the idea of a connection-speed upgrade that didn't increase my monthly bill. If I could replace the POTS line with DSL for $30-$40 per month, then DSL would make economic sense. If I could replace the combination of cell phone and POTS with a broadband connection that cost about the same as those two together, that would also be an economically neutral change. (The hitch there is that the connection would have to travel with me if it were to replace the cell phone functionality, which led to the expensive thought experiment.)

But now that you've got me thinking about it ... if I'm willing to give up the cell phone, putting DSL on top of my POTS line would mean I could use the landline for voice calls, so I'd still have voice connectivity. I'd just have to give up the ability to do be connected via voice and SMS when I'm out of the house. The mobile aspect wasn't the reason I got a cell phone in the first place, but I've gotten rather accustomed to having that. I need to sit down and seriously consider just how important having a cell phone is to me, and whether it would make more sense to spend that money on DSL instead.

(There's another aspect, since my cell phone is one of the prepaid plans. Right now, if I'm short on cash one month and run out of airtime, I just do without my phone until I can afford to buy more minutes. With a conventional cell plan (which would be cheaper per minute), or with DSL, spending that money wouldn't be flexible -- if I don't have the money to pay the monthly fee, I get late charges, nastygrams, and eventually termination of service that's more of a pain to re-establish than just buying a phone card at 7-11. If I had a steady income, then the idea of increasing my monthly phone bill by $30 probably wouldn't be a problem -- that's actually pretty cheap for just about everybody but me.)
 
posted by [identity profile] darwiniacat.livejournal.com at 08:34pm on 2005-03-18
If I had a steady income, then the idea of increasing my monthly phone bill by $30 probably wouldn't be a problem -- that's actually pretty cheap for just about everybody but me.)

My SSD and SSI total less than $600 a month so, trust me, I understand that one!
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posted by [personal profile] ckd at 11:10pm on 2005-03-18
Yes, a Mac will happily share files etc with Windows boxes.
 
posted by [identity profile] whc.livejournal.com at 08:23pm on 2005-03-18
If the 3G you are talking about is EDGE (often claimed to be 384Kb/sec), there are a few things you should know:

1. That data rate assumes that you are using all 8 timeslots on the GSM channel.
-Most EDGE phones only allow the use of 2 slots up and two down, or down and one up.
-You must have almost perfect signal (not just strength, but freedom from interference, including reflections from buildings) to hit the maximum data rate.
-You only get as many timeslots as the operator is willing to give you.
-You only get to use your timeslot(s) when the operator says you can.

(in other words, the total throughput can be very low)

2. The wireless network adds significant delays. Expect a ping time around one second.

3. Moving a lot of data may take more power than you charger can supply to the phone (assuming you use a phone and not a PC card)

I have heard good things about the wireless broadband service Nextel is selling (completely different technology than EDGE), but they block voice over IP and act as a NAT router (so your IP address isn't visible directly to the internet.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 09:06pm on 2005-03-18
The article talks about EvDO and HSDPA. I don't know how those relate to EDGE (I've only got about 0.1875 of a clue about this so far, if that much).

I'm already using NAT with my dialup, but at least the (dynamic) IP address of my gateway machine is visible, which is how I can telnet/VPN to it ... I can see the disadvantage to not even having that exposed, but I mostly use it to access my house from elsewhere, so if I were carrying a do-everything laptop, I'm not sure how much it would bother me. (OTOH, it's a good reason not to use it as the main Internet connection for a stay-at-home machine, and blocking VOIP would certainly be an issue unless I could use it as a conventional cell phone at the same time as I had a data connection going.)
 
Make sure that you aren't spending more on electricity than you are saving by not buying an el cheapo modern box to handle the minutiae.;)
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 09:08pm on 2005-03-18
Good point, though so far that's been a "poor man's boots" problem for me. It's something I should check ifwhen I can afford to buy hardware.
 
posted by [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com at 09:45am on 2005-03-19
Do check to see what happens if you minimize your POTS service. Remember, if you add DSL on top and switch most of your calling to VOIP you might be able to save big bucks on not only long distance, but local calling (HOW many calls do you make for dial-up connectivity? Even at $0.10 per, we found that it was a solid chunk before we got broadband.)

Here's another nudge reminder that I have some number of boxen available for you. These include several Pentium systems and a Micron Pentium Pro system. All of these work. Also possibly one or more PII systems; one of them has no power supply (it's a Dell; that might be proprietary?).

Do you have a guess whether you'll be up north anytime soon? (Contata, perhaps, if not earlier.) It would be good to get you these so they can go to good use. And I wouldn't mind discussing with you in person the setup of Linux boxen, particularly older systems (I have an old Pentium 1 laptop that would probably benefit much from being swapped from Windows 95 to Linux).

 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 12:24am on 2005-03-27
I think I'll have to miss Contata due to a schedule conflict, but I'll be somewhere in NY a couple of weeks earlier.
 
posted by [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com at 01:01am on 2005-03-27
Too bad about Contata. We'll miss you there. Let me know in advance when you're coming, and we can arrange for Good Stuff. Computers for sure, and maybe Indian food if you're into it.

BTW, I want to direct you specifically to http://www.livejournal.com/users/redaxe/126246.html wherein I note an article about naked DSL that appeared yesterday on CNet.
 
posted by [identity profile] syntonic-comma.livejournal.com at 08:56am on 2005-03-26
IIRC, there are laptops with 80G drives these days, n'est-ce pas?

Yes, mine has 80G (although it had only 30GB when I bought it).
("Only" 30GB -- that's still more than my office workstation has.)
The new one has 60GB, and PowerBooks now offer 60/80/100GB.

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