posted by [identity profile] jbsegal.livejournal.com at 08:58am on 2005-03-30
The double-bass isn't a member of the violin family.

Oh? What is it, then?
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 09:26am on 2005-03-30
It's a member of the viol family, like the viola da gamba, the viola d'amore, and the viola da bracchia -- and a few others -- (but unlike the viola. All the other viols are considered non-modern instruments (obsolete, historical, or if you play them or listen to groups who do, merely "early") but the double-bass viol continued as a mainstream instrument. Apparently losing its frets somewhere along the way. (I'm not absolutely certain it ever had frets, but the instruments it's closest to have them.) So the largest mainstream member of the violin family is the violoncello (aka simply "cello").

And then there are other non-violin-family fiddles, such as the vielle, the crwth ... and some that I'd have to research to tell you whether they're obscure violins or merely similart-to-violins-but-not, like the nickelharpe and the hardanger fiddle.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 09:30am on 2005-03-30
Wow, and my massive typo streak continues into a third day. *sigh* Missing right-paren, spurious 't' ... feh.
 
posted by [identity profile] puzzledance.livejournal.com at 02:23pm on 2005-03-30
I'm still unclear on the difference between viols and violins. Is it something in the way they are constructed? Something about it not having been made more modern? Perhaps the two are related.

Also, bassists in orchestras typically sit on, or at least rest against, a stool. If you don't have a stool, would it help to play it where you could lean against a wall a little bit?
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 03:21pm on 2005-03-30
Yes, it's the way they're constructed. (To start with, notice that the violin, viola, and cello have round "shoulders", but the double bass has the same sloped shoulders as the viola da gamba.) Also, I think, the bowing technique.

Last night I did lean against a wall a bit.
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posted by [personal profile] siderea at 05:37pm on 2005-03-30
I'm told there's something important about proportional body dept and curve of the back of the instrument.

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posted by [personal profile] siderea at 05:38pm on 2005-03-30
you're contageous. That should be "depth".

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