posted by [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com at 09:00pm on 2005-05-09
I would not. Unless you sight Nazi's as following secularism, which there is much proof for. In which case the religion isn't Nazi but Secularism.

Now according to you I could say democrats are brain washes, mental flawed, and are destorying our society, and I would not be guilty of hatered toward democrats I would only be making a point. Is that right?
 
posted by [identity profile] scruffycritter.livejournal.com at 09:11pm on 2005-05-09
How can a hatred of one particular religion be secular? Wouldnt you need a religious bias to have that? How would it work otherwise?

And yes, you could say that without hating someone. I might think you'd be misguided and wrong and thickheaded, but not guilty of hatred, and neither would I be for saying that opinion.
 
posted by [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com at 09:17pm on 2005-05-09
Do you think Mr Maher "feels hostility" toward religious groups?
 
posted by [identity profile] scruffycritter.livejournal.com at 09:46pm on 2005-05-09
Not per se, no.

I think he's mad about how religion gets used by some people. Religion requires faith. I don't think he has a problem with that until that faith is used to justify whatever the guy at the pulpit thinks should be justified (excuse me...how he interprets the scriptures).

Look at the 9/11 hijackers. They killed over 3000 people thinking the Almighty approved of it, so they'd go to heaven for doing so. I think Bill feels hostility towards anyone who uses religion like that. I think he also has a problem with trying to teach religion to someone who isn't capable of making decisions for him/herself.

I do not believe he feels hostility towards people who don't do that, but I think he feels the people who do have become endemic.
 
posted by [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com at 12:06am on 2005-05-10
"I do not believe he feels hostility towards people who don't do that, but I think he feels the people who do have become endemic."

Well on that I guess we are both making subjective judgements because only he could answer that and even in his own answer it would be subjective. I feel he is hateful towards religion and that he promotes hateful ideas against religion. You don't and that fine. But I personnal would not consider him a good athority on decide is someone is hateful or not. Since I feel he is fully emersed in it himself.

 
posted by [identity profile] scruffycritter.livejournal.com at 02:09am on 2005-05-10
I'll believe he hates someone when he says they are an abomination.
 
posted by [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com at 02:40am on 2005-05-10
Well, it is nice to know he considers us mental damaged, the root of the destruction of our country, and insane... I happy to know he has no ill will towards us.
 
posted by [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com at 09:19pm on 2005-05-09
How can a hatred of one particular religion be secular?

When it come to the Nazi's they hated Jew... but they also hated Gypsys, Gays, Blacks, etc. To think that the Jews were the ONLY target of there groups is foolish.

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