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Chalk up yesterday as another day lost to "stuff that feels a lot like migraine except for not being excruciating so I keep thinking I shouldn't take drugs for it but I still can't get anything done", and today to side effects of the drugs I finally gave in and took which should make me a lot more functional later.

At Pennsic, [livejournal.com profile] keith_m043 was gently pushing me to test my blood sugar. I'm guessing (and if I'm wrong I expect he'll correct me and if I decide it actually matters I'll ask directly) that this was partly because of his own increased awareness of the risk and dangers of diabetes, and the fact that I've gained a lot of weight over the past decade and some of my fibromyalgia symptoms can mimic or hide other conditions, but I have noticed eating-related issues on my own that are probably worth checking into at some point. Though my getting a blood sugar reading of 150 (units? We don' need no steekin' units! Though I guess I should ask Google what the conventional units are...) after eating an unhealthy quantity of fresh-baked chocolate chip cookies (have I mentioned that Pennsic really isn't very much like camping?) and a probably-healthy quantity of grapes just before leaving site seems to indicate that I'm probably not already diabetic, I have noticed that for the past ... uh ... year I guess, I've been hit especially hard by postprandial depression. (For anyone unfamiliar with the phrase, it refers to metabolic depression -- sluggishness, "want to curl up on a sunny rock and nap", drowsiness -- after eating, not mood.) Not sure what that suggests. Haven't asked a doctor or the web about it yet. Too sleepy when I think of it. Like now. Sleepy.

As I was preparing lunch, I found myself thinking two questions: "Why did God make nightshades so yummy?" and, "Why did evolution make nightshades so yummy?" But because I'd recently been reading a really long discussion on AlterNet (are there any other kind there?) about science versus politically-inspired-religious-pseudoscience, which of course included a lot of people getting evolution wrong in both subtle and unsubtle ways (on both sides, dammit), I immetiately had to rephrase the second question, "What is it (if anything) about the things that make the edible nightshades so yummy that conveys some advantage to the plants so that environmental selection for that property is unsurprising?" (Though now that I think more on it, that needs the companion question, "What (if anything) about nightshades makes it unsurprising that humans would evolve to like the taste of them?" It could all just be a huge accident that never got selected against, of course, but I fid myself wondering whether it's not.

The first question is, in many ways, more fun ... but the scientific questions are in most ways more interesting. I find both questions meaningful, but hey, I have unscientific religious beliefs. (Consider: the only scientific religious belief has to be agnosticism, because science's answer to the question of the existence of God is, "That's not a scientific question, so science does not have an answer for it." Atheism is as unscientific as theism. Militant agnosticism ("I don't know and you don't either") is arrogant when it assumes that science is the only tool for exploring truth; properly the scientific answer is simply, "science doesn't know and doesn't attempt to find out, ask me when I'm not wearing my lab coat and feel like giving you a non-scientific answer".) There's what I know as an armchair scientist, and there's what I know as an armchair theologian and as someone with personal subjective experience of the divine, and my belief in God is not counter-scientific or anti-scientific, merely non-scientific. It's only when we make claims that science can disprove, or claim to have scientifically proved the existence (or nonexistence) of God that religion gets into trouble with science.

(One of my philosophy professors in college was convinced that he had formally proved the existence of God. I wished he'd run his proof past the math department. I think it was the same prof who thought he'd mathematically proved that there had to have been a "first moment of time", whose proof of that was mathematically flawed, but wouldn't believe a mere undergrad (math major) correcting him on a mathematical concept. Cool guy and very good to learn philosophy from in general, but the math thing bugged me. (Not saying one way or 'tother about whether that conjecture can be proved, but the way he'd tried to do it relied on a very different understanding of the number line than mathematicians have.))

But I digress. My first trip to Florida convinced me that oranges are evidence that God loves us ("Look! Single-serving bags of orange juice! And they grow on trees! Isn't that convenient? And God made these for us!"). I must give thanks for the evolution of potatoes and chili peppers. (Okay, human-directed breeding gave rise to various specific breeds and tweaked the yum-factor, but there was an ur-potato and ur-pepper from which current varieties descended, and somone had to stumble across them (along with tomatoes and eggplant) and realize they'd found something worth cultivating.)

Hmm. Babbling, topic drift, too many parentheses, awkward sentence structure, tangents, no sense of where any particular thought is going ... oh yeah, it's definitely naptime. Wonder whether this will look at all salvageable by editing once I wake up again.

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posted by [identity profile] catalana.livejournal.com at 08:39pm on 2005-08-26
Yeah, it can be depressing how mathematics-challenged so many philosophy profs are. (Except, of course, for the ones who hang out with semanticists and see language as another kind of logic, preferably one which should be formalized and systematized.) Ah, well - I'm glad you challenged him; maybe if enough of his students did it he'd eventually learn!
 
posted by [identity profile] thespian.livejournal.com at 08:40pm on 2005-08-26
Mammals and birds.

which is to say, if mammals and birds like the taste of nightshades (or other vegetables), they will eat them. If they eat them (especially things like tomatoes, with their embedded little seeds), they will defecate them back out in new and interesting places (birds are great for this), spreading the tasty variants (and their pollen) about, while the non-tasty things stay in one place.

 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 08:54pm on 2005-08-26
That explains tomatoes, eggplant, and peppers (do birds like chili peppers? I knew a cat who did...), but what about potatoes?

And yeah, I should've thought of that for the fruits right away. Blame it on my sleepiness.
 
posted by [identity profile] cirith-ungol.livejournal.com at 08:52pm on 2005-08-26
The truly scary thing was that in my college you could fulfill your math requirement with a PHIL class (Intro to Logic). The other students looked at me funny when I had multiple MATH and CS entries on a single term's schedule.
 
posted by [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com at 09:53pm on 2005-08-26
We had that at my college, too, but they were not easy courses, not there, anyway. Well, the intro class was easy for me (the second logic class, also required to fulfill the math requirement, was harder), but, then, I had an aptitude for it, and became a logic TA for three semesters, with office hours and even occasional lectures. A bunch of folks failed the logic intro. I had to fail a friend and a boyfriend who took it, and I gave them all the help anyone could have.

This is not to say that all the philosophy professors there could have passed the logic classes.

 
posted by [identity profile] cirith-ungol.livejournal.com at 10:32pm on 2005-08-26
I'm sure there were a few people who failed it - I encountered people who couldn't even manage "derivatives-by-rote" (never mind actually understanding the Power Law.)

It just boggled me that you could complete your entire math requirement without seeing a single number. Other than the ones telling you what page you were on.
 
posted by [identity profile] jhayman.livejournal.com at 10:33pm on 2005-08-26
I would seriously suggest following up on the blood sugar. 150 (mg/dl) is NOT what a normal person would show even after what you ate. Mind you the time between eating and showing up in the serum does matter. If you tested truly JUST after eating the cookies, then it's time to worry. It takes a little time for the cookies to be digested and the sugars absorbed by your intestine. The postprandial dip could be related or a separate entity.

See your health care provider, please?

 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 02:45am on 2005-08-27
Uh, what health care provider?

(That's part of my problem: no insurance/HMO/etc., and no regular health care. Not a good situation. No way to get new prescriptions for drugs that I know work. Big incentive to delay checking out things that aren't Immediately Scary (which probably means a reduced life expetancy due to poverty unless I get lucky, but I've avoided Googling the stats on that). And the jury comissioner wants a note from my nonexistent doctor saying I really do have fibromyalgia. Feh.)

Hmm. I left camp at 21:30, ate the last of the cookies in the car, got to the emergency room at 22:25, and was there until 1:30; I don't remember at what point they drew the blood, but it was after triage, admitting, a wait in the waiting room, a short wait in the examination room, and a few attempts to get my veins to cooperate. I think the stick was after the CAT scan; maybe [livejournal.com profile] anniemal can remember more clearly. So I hadn't just finished the cookies. I do know it was after the codeine/caffeine/aspirin combo I'd taken earlier had started wearing off. And it was a lot of cookies.
 
posted by [identity profile] blueeowyn.livejournal.com at 03:04pm on 2005-08-30
I know that one of my friends who is hypoglycemic will get shaky if s/he doesn't eat and get VERY sleepy after eating if the food eaten is high in carbs (or medium in carbs but low in protein). S/he can balance the sleepies from the carbs by upping the protein (and using complex carbs instead of simple ones).

Hypoglycemia is low blood sugar and I don't know how exactly it works
Hyperglycemia is high blood sugar and is usually used to refer to Diabetes where the insulin either to low OR there are problems and the insulin can't drive the sugars from the blood into the cells for processing.

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