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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 04:34pm on 2005-11-10 under , ,

The Darkover science fiction convention is coming up, Thanksgiving weekend (25-27 November), and there are two dance events during the convention for which we need musicians: a Regency ball on Saturday and a small Playford dance session on Friday.

If you're a musician who'll be at Darkover and think this sounds like fun, please let me know (comment here or send email). Also tell me whether you have the music we used for the Regency ball last year or need me to get a copy to you.

At the moment there's nothing on the convention web site's "Main Programming" page, but in past years both dances have been scheduled for 4:00 PM to 6:00 PM, with the possibility of Friday's running a little longer.

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posted by [identity profile] jmthane.livejournal.com at 09:43pm on 2005-11-10
Playford dance session. At a SF con.

What an intriguing convention...
 
posted by [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com at 09:57pm on 2005-11-10
Really fun, too, for a dancer at least. (I was promised no USAs!) :)

How is it more intriguing than Regency, anyhow? :)
 
posted by [identity profile] jmthane.livejournal.com at 10:03pm on 2005-11-10
Regency?

I'm in the Chicago area and know little of east coast conventions...

(Love the icon!)
 
posted by [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com at 01:49pm on 2005-11-11
Too bad. Come to our cons! Come to Darkover!
 
posted by [identity profile] jmthane.livejournal.com at 02:46pm on 2005-11-11
Not this year. Same weekend as Chicago TARDIS, for which I already have my membership (and have had since last year's). Yes, I'm a Doctor Who geek, too.
 
posted by [identity profile] lonebear.livejournal.com at 10:27pm on 2005-11-10
playford, as done by SdeG will be much more accurate than what you might see at a major con.
 
is that a few years back (maybe still today) the hotel restaurant that Darkover was being held in had country line dancing on saturday nights. THAT made for an interesting site, with these standard redneck hicks trying to figure out what was up with the star wars characters running around...
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posted by [personal profile] cellio at 11:15pm on 2005-11-10
Darkover has had significant SCA crossover for a couple decades. It's not an SCA event (you'll note that all the dancing is post-period), but there is some commonality of interest.

Darkover is also much more of a music con than most other "generic" (that is, not officially music) cons. Glenn's celeidh band often plays, and my group plays a mix of folk and renaissance (and a little filk), and Cliff Art is this sort-of-jazz-kinda group, and there's an instrumental jam, and sometimes sacred-harp singing, and the midnight Hallelujah Chorus, and...

Yeah, it's an unusual con.
 
posted by [identity profile] jmthane.livejournal.com at 01:28am on 2005-11-11
Post-period? Not quite. Playford, granted, is 1651 (or thereabouts), but the dances and the music collected therein are older. :-) The dances were known to English courtiers, before H8 and E1 brought in the Italian dance masters, who of course brought their own music. And the music passed to the country folk. And somewhere, Playford collected it all together, along with the dance steps. That's a very common thing for that time period.

Music geek? You could say that. I had to do the research for Minstrosity's "Tread the Measure" CD. Which includes some of Playford.
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posted by [personal profile] cellio at 02:25am on 2005-11-11
Post-period? Not quite.

Whoops. I didn't notice that the post did not contain the information (sent to me by other means) that the dances hare are from the 1670 Playford. Yes, there are undoubtedly dances in that edition that go back to Elizabethan, but by the 1670 edition, IIRC, there's a significant shift from set dances to longways dances, which are pretty rare closer to 1600.

(It appears we might have different understandings of the SCA's cutoff date, there being two common ones, but I'd rather just note it than open that can of worms. :-) )

Music geek? You could say that.

It looks like you have a fun group. Are you the dulcimer player? I play dulcimer too. Do you ever make it to Pennsic?
 
posted by [identity profile] jmthane.livejournal.com at 12:01pm on 2005-11-11
I am indeed the dulcimer player, and we've never made it to Pennsic.

And please educate me further - I've only ever encountered one cutoff date for SCA: 1650. (Of course, I also haven't done SCA for about 15 years, either.)

And I have a reprint of the 1651 edition on my computer. :-) Which he would not have published "But that there was a false and surrepticious Copy at the Printing Presse, which if it had been published, would have been a disparagement to the quality and the Professors thereof, and a hinderance to the Learner". Some are set longways, some are set for four, some ("Gathering Peascods") are set for as many as will.
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posted by [personal profile] cellio at 09:39pm on 2005-11-11
And please educate me further - I've only ever encountered one cutoff date for SCA: 1650.

The SCA's governing docs (bylaws?) describe the organization as being about "pre-17th-century" history/culture/recreation/etc. That would mean through 1600. Early on, a convention arose for documentation (in competitions) to be lenient through 1650, on the grounds that they didn't have instantaneous publication the way we do and if it was written down by 1650 it was probably not unheard-of by 1600. (Obviously the amount of hand-waving this requires varies widely by field.) Over time this has caused many people to think that the target date is 1650.

I'm not one of the people who's hard-nosed (either way); there's a lot of stuff that we can't document pre-1601 that I enjoy (music and dance, primarily). But 1601-1650 is sort of a "gray zone" in my mind, and we should be mindful of the next stage of that argument -- "well, if it's written down in 1670 then it's probably good enough for 1650", which leads before too long into the 18th century.

I don't have 1670 Playford to hand. Years ago I went through both it and 1651 and found a lot of stylistic change, but it's been too long now for me to recall details. (And I have to run now, so my silence over the next couple days is not because I'm ignoring you.)
 
posted by [identity profile] jmthane.livejournal.com at 03:18am on 2005-11-12
While playing for the opening gate dancing at Michigan Ren Faire, we discovered a stylistic difference. They were dancing "Hole In the Wall" in 4/4. Only problem is we learned it and recorded it, and it's in the 1651, in 3/4. Oops...
 
posted by [identity profile] an1840sgirl.livejournal.com at 07:17am on 2005-11-12
wish i could gooo!!!!!!!

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