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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 02:22pm on 2006-01-02 under

Just before 14:00, I heard a loud sound halfway between a pop and a bang. It could have been a backfire, it could have been a firecracker. After a pause, I heard five more. And something about the timing told me they weren't firecrackers. I turned on the cell phone while heading upstairs; it had connected to the network by the time I got to the window and saw someone lying crumpled in the street next to the curb, so I dialed 911. A moment later I saw someone else standing over the victim with a cell phone, apparently doing the same thing.

The first ambulance and a fire truck (a fire truck?) arrived very quickly. The police arrived after I started typing this (along with a second ambulance -- I hadn't seen a second victim, but perhaps they were around the corner). I saw the victim move, and they loaded him onto a stretcher, so with any luck this won't bump up the murder counter for 2006 (there were three murders in Baltimore yesterday).

While I was calling and then watching, the intersection went from its normal empty-of-pedestrians state to looking like there's an actual neighbourhood here, most of whom had come out to stare with worried looks on their faces. (It's a major spot for automobile traffic, but foot traffic is sparse except at certain hours.)

The numbers for the city as a whole sound pretty scary, but as frightened as some folks are by the appearance of my neighbourhood, the violence usually doesn't happen this close to me.

I'm not sure I can quite understand what brings a person to shoot another person at a busy intersection in the middle of a Monday afternoon. I have enough trouble understanding what makes somebody shoot somebody else in the first place. I hope the shooter is caught.


[Added 14:38] The street is quiet now, empty of civilians and with no flashing lights, though a couple of police cruisers are parked opposite my house. The police are in the middle of ringing each doorbell in turn to ask folks what we heard. I asked the officer how it was going, and he said the victim wasn't willing to say much to them and they had no clues yet. Yellow police tape is strung across the street from front-stair-railing to front-stair-railing a few doors from the intersection in all directions (well, at least the three I can see -- I'm guessing at the fourth), and my car is roped in. Lombard is blocked at the far end of the block by a police cruiser, so I'm guessing Fulton is probably likewise at Pratt. A knot of officers and a detective stand in the middle of the intersection talking to each other and occasionally pointing. The overall "vibe" is so ... calm. No sign of news cameras, but I don't know whether it's because this is a "so what" part of town for the newsies, or because the victim is still alive.

[Added 15:09] I see what might be a news truck parked on Lombard a block away (just the other side of Mount). The antenna mast has not been raised, so I'm not sure, but maybe I can tell after I grab a telephoto lens.

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posted by [identity profile] wellread.livejournal.com at 07:38pm on 2006-01-02
I grew up in a urban neighborhood and lived in my metro area off and on in the center of town. I got tired of all the noise. Like gunshots going off. I live in a lower middle class area of a suburb now for 14 years. It still has a nice mix of people without the drama.

BTW, I've wondered myself why a fire truck comes just about everytime when 911 is called.

 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 08:00pm on 2006-01-02
I grew up in the suburbs and only wound up in the city due to financial circumstance (which is also why I live in a run-down neighbourhood). It's been quite an adjustment, and the noise has been the biggest part of that.

But I got way more BOOM-THUMPA-THUMPA-BOOM car stereos (at all %$^@ing hours) and noisy trucks and buses than gunshots. And sometimes too-loud conversations on the sidewalk (when I've got my windows closed and the folks on the sidewalk are louder in my second-floor bedroom than the television in the same room with me, I start to wonder about loud people). When I do hear gunshots, they're usually far enough away that I can't judge the distance or direction well. (Of course, the fact that I can apply the word "usually" there at all says something, but I'm only talking about a few times a year, I think.)

Since moving here, I've come to understand and even actually appreciate some of the things that real cityfolk like about living in a city. But as much as I've adapted, I'm really still a child of the suburbs at heart.
 
posted by [identity profile] wellread.livejournal.com at 08:19pm on 2006-01-02
he noise I mostly have to put up with is railroad being nearby. I can here the clackty-clack of the wheels. The other night I was forced awake by the train whistle. I don't know why they continue to blow that darn whistle when there is no traffic that can cross the tracks now. I didn't dare go back to sleep, I knew I would have a nightmare.

I have a neighbor who comes home with the BOOM-THUMPA-THUMPA-BOOM coming out of his car. Someday I'm going to scream at him! I don't want to hear his ranchero music blaring out at my sensitive ears. If I want to listen to music, I'll pick my own, thank you!

Well, hopefully, you'll get back on your feet and can move to a better area soon.
 
posted by [identity profile] lonebear.livejournal.com at 02:22am on 2006-01-03
If you live near a fully de-certified crossing you should send a letter to the railroad (don't know where you are for that knowledge), and there are 2 others who i know would deal with that but the name is not coming to me. I think one would be NTSB. Usually there are wayside sinage that indicate crossing ahead and that is what indicated to the engineer to sound 'grade crossing'. The railway should eventually remove the signs and put road orders into effect until all engineers who 'know' that there is a crossing there are retrained.

good luck.
 
Funny that because I grew up in an affluent area but with train tracks not very far away. In the dead of night you could hear the trains go through. I grew up with that for the first 12 years of my life. Later on, I lived across the street from a train crossing and it took a while to get used to the train whistle in the middle of the night. But it was the only real noise that late even in the small college town set deep in the mountains of Virginia. Here in the city though with the noise, the gunshots - I sometimes wonder if my neighborhood isn't just as bad for that as D'Glenn's with the murder on the corner and robberies at gunpoint frequently right in front of my house - all the people and the faster pace that seems to go with city life compared to the suburbs, much less the rural setting I lived in for so many years, the train just a few blocks away is one of my few comforts, deep in the night when even this city succumbs to sleep...
 
posted by [identity profile] wellread.livejournal.com at 08:15pm on 2006-01-03
I lived in the country for a year in Virginia. In Goldvein in Fauquier County. It was very quiet at night.
 
I lived in Montgomery when I was going to school, but in Patrick when I was home with my parents and later when I was married. On the farm there were no lights for miles, just starlight. The only noise at night were the frogs and crickets. It was an extremely hard adjustment moving here.
 
posted by [identity profile] dianec42.livejournal.com at 08:56pm on 2006-01-02
I've never understood why the fire truck is mandatory. Sure, if it's a car accident, something might catch on fire. But what's going to happen in a case like this? Random passers-by might burst into flames?

Must be a union thing.
 
posted by [identity profile] donnad.livejournal.com at 12:23am on 2006-01-03
At least in this town, fire trucks and fire fighters are the first responders. They are all trained in CPR and rescue so if someone is trapped or unconscious they can handle it. And you are more likely to get out of the way with a fire truck roaring up behind you that a police car or a paramedic truck or an ambulance. Once the fire fighters assess the situation, they will often call in the Paramedics and Ambulance. But the trucks come out every time. Sometimes they don't bother to call the paramedics and just call the ambulance. I guess it depends on how much of an emergency the call actually is. The Paramedics are advanced life support, they can administer drugs if your heart stops or you are having an anaphalatic reaction, they can shoot you full of epinepherin, whereas the fire fighters and ambulance people cannot, all they can do is maintain airway and CPR to maintain heart beat.
 
posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 01:53am on 2006-01-03
And you are more likely to get out of the way with a fire truck roaring up behind you that a police car or a paramedic truck or an ambulance.

That strikes me as so odd. Here in Ontario, it's the law that you have to pull over and stop your car when an emergency vehicle comes. They test for that on driver's examinations, too. If you don't notice, they'll honk at you until you get out of the way, and you may get a citation in the mail a few days later.

In any case, it's no big deal to do, doesn't slow anyone down by much, and cuts down on the noise, since the emergency vehicles don't have to lean on their horns the way I've seen them do in the US.

 
posted by [identity profile] blumindy.livejournal.com at 01:59am on 2006-01-03
We have all the same laws. different people, all with the 'me, first' attitude or the music-too-loud-to-hear sirens, I guess.
 
posted by [identity profile] cirith-ungol.livejournal.com at 02:09am on 2006-01-03
I believe it's the law here in the States as well - but where a police or medical emergency is commonly seen as affecting "those other people", a fire emergency is seen as "could affect me". It's a sad statement that among the advice that kids are given to prevent abductions is to yell "Fire!" instead of "Help!"
 
posted by [identity profile] darwiniacat.livejournal.com at 06:15pm on 2006-01-03
No shit. Because an abusive parent will just tell bystanders that the child is troubled. And abductors know this.
 
posted by [identity profile] donnad.livejournal.com at 02:25am on 2006-01-03
Oh yeah, it's the law here that you are supposed to yield for emergency vehicles. But I have actually seen cars pull out of side streets and cut off ambulances so that the ambulance had to hit it's brakes hard enough for the tires to squeal. I guess the risk of being hit by an ambulance and surviving is not as great as being hit by a huge ladder truck or something. I have seen people make illegal right turns on red lights in front of moving police vehicles. People are stupid, or maybe they are hoping to get hit so they can sue the town and make some money, I don't know.
 
posted by [identity profile] darwiniacat.livejournal.com at 06:03pm on 2006-01-03
Yes, it's the law here in the states. However, I have been in the car with a panicking driver who started to move in one direction and then in another and then said he didn't know what to do. The opposite lane was clear so I told the driver "Don't move!" because the ambulance, even though you are supposed to move out of their way, would much rather go around you if you are sitting still than have to slow down and/or wait because you are still moving and they don't know what you're doing.

My mother was a volunteer EMT for several years and while she never drove, she was often shotgun and she witnessed some radical shit by drivers.
 
posted by [identity profile] donnad.livejournal.com at 06:23pm on 2006-01-03
Yup, It's pretty scary what some people will do in front of an emergency vehicle.
I usually try to get as far out of the way as I can. If I can't do that safely I just stop as far to the side as I can get and don't move and then the emergency vehicle can hopefully get around me. I figure if I'm not moving they will not have to worry about me and just deal with all the other people who don't understand to get of the way.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 07:42pm on 2006-01-03
It's the law. And when I took driver-ed, it was presented as a pretty fucking important one. Alas, it is so oft ignored 'round here that when I see an entire line of cars get out of the way I am surprised. Pleasantly surprised, but ideally 'twouldn't be surprising at all.

And that's before getting to the folks who get all flustered and confused (tempted to write "conflustered") trying to figure out what to do.

Maybe some enforcement might help.
 
posted by [identity profile] weskeag.livejournal.com at 04:03am on 2006-01-03
Many places have more fire trucks than ambulances, so sending fire trucks will reduce response times.
 
posted by [identity profile] darwiniacat.livejournal.com at 06:12pm on 2006-01-03
There are a lot more calls for rescue than for fire. So those fire trucks (and their rescue personell) are just sitting in the station house doing nothing while there are calls for rescue and lots of already busy rescue personell. Rescue often get called as backup for other stations when that station is out and a call comes for that area. So, when you call for rescue, your local ambulance may be on a call for another station and you may have to wait for an ambulance from much farther away. Meanwhile the firetruck and firefighters can be there in minutes because they are likely just sitting there waiting for a call. They often leave much sooner than the ambulance and return to their station so they can be ready for a fast response to the next call.

Firefighters are almost always EMTs, always at least First Responders and carry backboards, neck braces and the basic medical equipment in their trucks so they have patients ready for the medical personell when they arrive. It would be much more expensive to equip the stations with the additional rescue vehicles and personnell nessesary to respond as fast as the firetrucks can. And the firefighters would sit with their thumbs twiddling ALOT.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 07:47pm on 2006-01-03
Another thought struck me, but I don't know how well it matches reality: aren't a lot of ambulances privately operated? If so, maybe the 911 dispatcher sends a city-operated fire truck at the same time just so that one of the units responding will be something the city can guarantee?

Yesterday, the fir etruck and the ambulance arrived at the same time (I think the ambulance won by a nose bumper). Not that a sample size of n=1 is meaningful, of course ...
 
posted by [identity profile] darwiniacat.livejournal.com at 07:55pm on 2006-01-03
I don't believe any city ambulances are privately operated. That seems like there would be too much liability.

However there are a lot of private ambulance transport companies for people who need to be transported by ambulance for tertiary care and possible life-saving procedures if nessesary, but they don't respond to emergencies. I worked for a wheelchair/ambulance transport for a while. I always drove the wheelchair van but we had two ambulances and drivers/EMTs for those when needed. Usually it was really old and frail people going from a nursing facility to a hospital for inpatient hospital treatment that didn't require emergency transport.

I think some larger hospitals and trauma centers own their own ambulances for transport between facilities as well.
 
posted by [identity profile] flaviarassen.livejournal.com at 07:15am on 2006-01-03
A fire truck will come to many police calls, especially if they are "all response", which is what police can/will send out when a person's life is at stake: this is because firemen are trained in lifesaving techniques.

On another note, I hope this poor soul sucked up all your danger karma for the year; at least this way, s/he would not have died in vain.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 07:56pm on 2006-01-03
I haven't heard about a fifth murder for the year on the news yet, so I think (and hope) this victim survived.

Still ... the "sucked up all my danger karma for the year thought" struck me aptly enough to leave me wondering whether I should feel guilty for hoping that it's the case. Getting shot is bad enough, even if one doesn't die from it.
 
posted by [identity profile] flaviarassen.livejournal.com at 08:20pm on 2006-01-03
Okay - I'll amend my wish to "...so that way the person won't have gotten shot in vain."

How's that?

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