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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:25am on 2006-02-19 under

From the Quotation of the day mailing list, 2005-11-27:

"No nation ever voluntarily gave up the dominion of any province, how troublesome soever it might be to govern it, and how small soever the revenue which it afforded might be in proportion to the expense which it occasioned. Such sacrifices, though they might frequently be agreeable to the interest, are always mortifying to the pride of every nation, and what is perhaps of still greater consequence, they are always contrary to the private interest of the governing part of it, who would thereby be deprived of the disposal of many places of trust and profit, of many opportunities of acquiring wealth and distinction, which the possession of the most turbulent, and, to the great body of the people, the most unprofitable province seldom fails to afford." -- Adam Smith, from An Inquiry into the Nature And Causes of the Wealth of Nations, Book Four, Chapter VII, Part 3 (1776).
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posted by [identity profile] dptwisted.livejournal.com at 05:15pm on 2006-02-19
So we can expect the occupation of Iraq to be permanent? Yeah, that's what I'd been expecting.
 
posted by [identity profile] blumindy.livejournal.com at 06:54pm on 2006-02-19
Israel.
 
posted by [identity profile] tikvah.livejournal.com at 07:23pm on 2006-02-19
Then why did Israel give back Sinai?
 
posted by [identity profile] blumindy.livejournal.com at 07:33pm on 2006-02-19
That is my point: Israel not only has given back territory, they continue to be expected to give back more.

The original Adam Smith quote indicated no countries ever giving back conquered territories (Yes, I understand that Israel didn't exist when Smith lived.)
 
posted by [identity profile] tikvah.livejournal.com at 07:37pm on 2006-02-19
Ah. I thought you were making an anti-Israel statement. I didn't realize you were snarking, and that you share my opinion regarding the situation.

As Emily Litella(sp?) would say, "Never mind." ;-)
 
posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 01:46am on 2006-02-20
Never mind Israel, Canada. I am given to understand that England's occupation of British Palestine didn't exactly end voluntarily, but we were able to repatriate our Constitution absent a revolution or beheading of the monarch. (No, the Commonwealth doesn't count as "dominion.")
 
posted by [identity profile] gravitrue.livejournal.com at 03:32am on 2006-02-20
indeed, while the quote might have been (in smith's time) and continue to be generally true, it isn't absolutely true, and there probably were exceptions even in smith's time and before, once you leave europe.

several of the US pacfic territories have become independant; I think pulau was the most recent.

 
posted by [identity profile] aliza250.livejournal.com at 04:29am on 2006-02-20
Just for the US:

The Louisiana Purchase.
The Seward Purchase.
(The Gadsen Purchase, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have been voluntary.)
The Panama Canal Zone.
Various Pacific islands.

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