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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 12:37pm on 2008-07-18

The good news: LJ is planning to bring back something called 'Basic' accounts.

The bad news: they're not the same as what we're used to calling 'basic accounts'; they'll have at least some advertising on them. (So they're really just bringing back the name, 'basic'.)

The somewhat encouraging detail: they're asking for feedback on four different proposals for how to incorporate the advertising.

The terribly discouraging detail: the change will affect existing basic accounts, not just ones created under the new setup. So those of us who thought existing basic accounts were being grandfathered in when they took away the ability to create new basic accounts ... will (according to the current plan) wind up with ad-supported accounts eventually regardless.

Several folks have suggested using a name other than 'basic' for this new account type, such as 'Plus Lite'.

Some of the proposals for how to add ads are much, much worse than others. But which is worst and which is least objectionable will depend on how you prioritise different aspects of using a blogging site like this.

For the folks reading this somewhere other than LiveJournal, yeah, I'm still using LJ (... so far). Because that's where most of the conversation on my entries takes place so far. This entry won't be especially interesting to the folks who've already left LJ entirely or never signed up there to begin with, but I'm mirroring it like I do all my recent entries -- it's less headache than keeping track of having posted different things to different sites.

And for the folks who are reading this on LiveJournal, a few just-in-case links: BL, CL, SC, JF, GJ, DJ, CJ, IJ.

Watching to see how this plays out. Hoping for something better than what looks likely.

There are 10 comments on this entry. (Reply.)
 
posted by [identity profile] caprinus.livejournal.com at 04:48pm on 2008-07-18
So, will we ever see your big post about what you see as the social contract between bloggers and their hosts? You're my Great Hope of Explaining It All, because I really really don't get it!

I have to laugh that the people who created the panic around the end of Basic accounts have now screwed the existing Basic accounts out of their ad-free status. I have mostly contempt for the concept and execution of the "LJ Strike", led by a self-selected crusader disinterested in concensus-building, with a list of "user demands" I in no way endorsed and which I believe were harmful to the long-term viability of the platform I depend on for all my blogging. I had my own big post about it, but never published it because I felt I still needed some deeper understanding of the Other Side in this argument, which I think you represent... So if you wonder if your thoughts on the issue will have an audience, I'm eager ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 06:51pm on 2008-07-18
SUP had managed to mostly stay below the piss-people-off threshold for long enough that I pushed that to a back burner to get to "someday". Right now I'm caught up in, among other things, Pennsic
prep, but I'll try to find time to write it up before Pennsic if I can.
 
posted by [identity profile] caprinus.livejournal.com at 07:06pm on 2008-07-18
Yay! Don't stress it, best posts are simmered slowly. I am myself a crockpot of crackpottery.

Have fun camping!
 
posted by [identity profile] netpositive.livejournal.com at 05:06pm on 2008-07-18
The terribly discouraging detail: the change will affect existing basic accounts, not just ones created under the new setup. So those of us who thought existing basic accounts were being grandfathered in when they took away the ability to create new basic accounts ... will (according to the current plan) wind up with ad-supported accounts eventually regardless.

Oh, joy. Not particularly surprised, but still vaguely disappointed.

Thanks for the pointers to other places you're using, BTW. Moving even my tiny piece of virtual fourth estate would certainly be a royal pain for me, but.... *shrug* "let's see what happens", as Gregor Vorbarra would say. Not going to be too high on my list of priorities for the time being, though.
 
posted by [identity profile] flaviarassen.livejournal.com at 11:15pm on 2008-07-18
Since there was the cool Vor reference, I had to answer here instead
of at the original post...

I can;t believe that I'm going to have to decamp from here.
I hate change, more than most people.
 
posted by [identity profile] blastedheath.livejournal.com at 06:43pm on 2008-07-18
Awesome. Anyone have a good quick-and-dirty script for archiving LJ entries?
 
posted by [identity profile] caprinus.livejournal.com at 07:04pm on 2008-07-18
This announcement makes you worried you'll lose access?
 
posted by [identity profile] blastedheath.livejournal.com at 07:19pm on 2008-07-18
No, the announcement makes me think that I may eventually end up voting with my feet and deleting my account.

I'm a packrat, so I'd like to have a personal or portable archive of my (cough) deathless prose, if it comes down to jumping ship.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 09:48pm on 2008-07-18
Start here (http://karma-apple.insanejournal.com/8073.html). (There may be better lists-o'-links; that's what I had bookmarked.)
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posted by [personal profile] geekosaur at 12:08am on 2008-07-19
FWIW I'm sticking; my community, such as it is, is here — and since I have a permanent account from before LJ became the chief drama-dary, and don't post enough / interesting enough stuff, voting with my feet wouldn't really accomplish much of anything aside from losing track of everyone. Maybe if enough others decide to move to one alternative (I'm not getting on 8 different foojournals! Bad enough I ended up on MySpace and SL for various odd reasons!)....

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