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posted by [personal profile] metahacker at 11:27am on 2009-10-15
To be fair, no kingdom has lasted the entire time of the Kingdom of Christ.

(The Chinese and Egyptian dynasties can be considered to go way longer, but I don't have a feel for the density of civil war within them.)
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posted by [personal profile] skreidle at 01:36pm on 2009-10-15
One could argue that Christ has no Kingdom in the traditional sense, and that millennia of cultists fighting cultists doth not civil war make..
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posted by [personal profile] metahacker at 09:38pm on 2009-10-15
You sure could, but to argue it you'd likely need to track down Monsieur Montesquieu.
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posted by [personal profile] adalger at 08:41pm on 2009-10-15
The descendants of Israel are as much a "kingdom" in this sense as the "Kingdom of Christ." They have lasted far longer.

The Greeks have, too.

Also, it's really not fair you saying "I don't know anything about the Egyptians and Chinese, so they don't count."
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posted by [personal profile] metahacker at 09:38pm on 2009-10-15
I was looking for unbroken *kingdoms* to compare to. I brought the dynasties up as sidebars. Who is it "not fair" to? Who should I be being fair to?

Greeks: fractious, many civil wars. Hard to call it a good example of a kingdom with less civil wars, assuming you call it a kingdom at all (I can't really say 'a collection of city-state' nor 'a parliamentary republic' is a 'kingdom').

Israel: more of a direct comparison.
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posted by [personal profile] adalger at 10:45pm on 2009-10-15
I was looking for unbroken *kingdoms* to compare to. I brought the dynasties up as sidebars.

Well, then, is there any way you can define "Kingdom of Christ" such that it meets the criterion "unbroken kingdom"?

Who is it "not fair" to? Who should I be being fair to?

Anyone who disagrees with your statement based on their factual existence as counterexamples to the statement "no kingdom has lasted the entire time of the Kingdom of Christ".

(I can't really say 'a collection of city-state' nor 'a parliamentary republic' is a 'kingdom').

Nor can I say a loose collection of dozens of denominations who have rarely in the past thousand years all agreed on even the name of their ruler is a 'kingdom'.
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