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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:25am on 2010-06-02

"It is one of the ironies of the sequence of cases dealing with religious symbols on public land that those who argue for their lawful presence must first deny them the significance that provokes the desire to put them there in the first place.

"It has become a formula: if you want to secure a role for religious symbols in the public sphere, you must de-religionize them, either by claiming for them a non-religious meaning as Kennedy does here, or, in the case of multiple symbols in a park or in front of a courthouse, by declaring that the fact of many of them means that no one of them is to be taken seriously; they don't stand for anything sectarian; they stand for diversity. So you save the symbols by leeching the life out of them. The operation is successful, but the patient is dead."

-- Stanley Fish, "When Is a Cross a Cross?", 2010-05-03

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posted by (anonymous) at 11:35am on 2010-06-02
I'll have to remember this next time I'm arguing with someone about why not wanting the Ten Commandments in a public place is not an example of how Christians are oppressed in US society today.
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
posted by [personal profile] twistedchick at 01:42pm on 2010-06-02
There is further irony in it being the very Catholic Anthony Kennedy who is saying the cross has no religious meaning. He should perhaps talk to a fisherman named Peter about that.
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
posted by [personal profile] redbird at 11:24pm on 2010-06-02
I think it's somewhere between a verbal equivalent of double-think, and something closer to "nudge-nudge wink-wink" or "just good friends," where the plaintiffs don't believe the claim that the symbols aren't religious, and they don't expect to be taken as sincere, and their attorneys probably don't believe it either, but they utter this phrasing and sometimes it works.

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